At least the NASA hires were all “former” nazis, rather than actively practicing. (At least on paper, I’m not actively aware of anyone continuing to be terrible after jumping to the US.)
There seems to be an inordinate amount of racism around the Huntsville Alabama area, and I can’t help but wonder if that’s partly due to the legacy of operation paperclip.
I guess if we can’t find any examples of racism in Alabama before 1946 your theory may have legs.
Yeah as if Alabama needed any help with being racist.
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Yeah it’s called Alabama. No one should live there. It’s a terrible place.
Nazi racial theory was actually significantly less extreme than Jim Crow-era racist policies in many ways – i.e. blood quanta vs. “one drop”. Ex-Naxi rocket scientists were likely to have had a moderating effect on southern racism.
I don’t think it matters whether you’re labelled a Nazi or not, when the country that
hires youyou defect to puts the weapons of mass destruction you were helping to research to practical use.You’re assisting horrible people, one way or the other.The Nazis were most definitely planning on doing the same thing had they gotten the chance, mind you, but I cannot fathom one using the weapons of mass destruction that the evil of the world planned to use, on not one, but two cities containing mostly civilians, and then call oneself a “hero” or the “good guy”.
In some cases these scientists are why the Nazis didn’t get nukes because they were quietly sabotaging the program by pursuing known dead ends. Scientists in the US were actually baffled by the lack of progress, since German scientists were publishing good theoretical work.
Classic trolley problem exposed here. Nuke 2 cities or invasion level casualties.
Choose.
Japan would have surrendered without the atomic bombs dropping or a ground invasion. Saying it was necessary to prevent a ground invasion or to finish the war early is a common argument that makes sense at first glance, but if you look into it then it’s not actually accurate.
My favorite video on the subject is Dropping the Bomb: Hiroshima & Nagasaki by Shaun. It is 2h 20m long, following the story of the relationship between America, Russia, and Japan, and the circumstances that led to the bombs ultimately being dropped. Highly recommend.
You’re wrong, and I’m not able to articulate even a single point as rebuttal, but just watch this two hour video!
Please. Use your words and summarize the important points if you want to argue.
If I remember my history right, Japan would’ve surrendered conditionally without the bombs and that was only after bleeding the allies and soviets a bit. The condition here was Japan gets to keep the pacific holdings that weren’t already liberated. It doesn’t take a genius to see why that was unacceptable.
They would also still be an authoritarian imperialist state and probably would’ve never produced some of their most culturally relevant pieces of art from the 20th century.
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I choose a secret third option:
I choose an infamous fourth option:
Sometimes (aka almost always) there is actually a third (or fourth) solution to a trolley problem.
In fairness NASA does not likely currently employ too many Nazis, compared to say other large aerospace companies that often get govt contracts for similar kinds of groundbreaking engineering work.
Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, etc.
My cousin, my Jewish cousin actually had to leave a promising engineering contract at Lockheed (likely Skunkworks, more on that later), because he could not handle the Anti Semitism, far right views of coworkers, combined with having to basically live in the middle of nowhere.
He now works for Blue Origin.
Given my cousin’s expertise in advanced ceramics and what he mentioned about his work, I’m convinced he was working in the SR 72 but he of course cannot confirm due to NDA.
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Not a big surprise that engineers in the military industrial complex are racist right wing chuds.
There’s a plant where I live that refurbishes non-nuclear components of nuclear weapons. I haven’t yet seen any of their engineering staff implicated in the January 6 insurrection, but I figure with the politics I’ve heard out of that bunch it’s only a matter of time.
The kind of top quality history knowledge you get from someone who’s twitter handle is @PrivatizeEdu
Privatize Everything sounds worst.
Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down! That’s not my department, say Wernher von Braun!
a man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience,
Call him a Nazi, he won’t even frown “Ha, Nazi, Schmazi” says Wernher von Braun
This is definitely sarcastic
Yeah about post WW2…
Operation 📎
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How would a civilian support either of these companies apart from writing tweets about how cool they are…?
Edit: re-read the tweet I’m dumb sorry folks!
NASA is not a company, it is a government agency, and it’s the agency that regulates space travel and exploration for the US.
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NASA ain’t a company, bub.
