I don’t know about 9/11, but I feel like the US has been creeping towards another Oklahoma City for some time now.
prolly more than one. Lots of nutters out there.
I think it definitely will, but it will probably be carried out by domestic terrorist Nazis er uh, I mean “white nationalists”
Gonna be civil unrest. I really don’t see a different outcome with the right wing screeching hatred 24/7.
at its peak (which lasted for months), covid killed more people daily than 9/11 did, and noone cared.
so the question is more about whether people blow up some highrise buildings that will cause chaos and despair.
I think it’s more likely that we will see smaller scale attacks by domestic terrorists, ranging from mass shootings to something on the scale of a Timothy McVeigh. I can also see a probability of a return to a 1960s/1970s level of political violence and assassinations.
I think those are more likely than a large scale attack from foreign terrorists.
Bush isn’t president anymore, and there’s already a reason to justify another two decade war.
In any case, theres domestic terrorism happening every day in the US including Trump’s Jan 6, and the twice a week school shootings.
Twice a week? According to this, there were 346 school shootings in the US in 2023. Almost enough for one per day. Then remember holidays and the winter and summer breaks…
I think this stat only counts K-12 schools too, not colleges.
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I sure fucking hope not.
I recently read a book by a retired agent about the effort against terrorism. If I remember correctly, terrorism has changed substantially since 9/11. The author described that terrorist nowadays are still organised more or less centrally but have a focus on smaller activities. I remember them describing them as “Nike terrorists” because of Niles slogan “just do it”. The smaller and more isolated activities are apparently much harder to detect and counter than massive attempts like 9/11
Ignoring domestic terrorism, an outside attack to me seems most likely in terms of cyberattacks on weak infrastructure (utilities, signals, etc.)
Domestic terrorists? You mean LoNe WoLvEs?
You mean an event blown way out of proportion to justify draconian overreach? The Republicans trot one of those out literally every week.
Yes!
As someone who is not American, it’s so obvious that your shit is a bit fucked. Everyone is so deeply unhappy, it’s being channelled into political partisanship.
Honestly I don’t think there’s any way to get back on track without some kind of event that galvanises you.
If COVID didn’t galvanize us, what possibly could?? I really can’t think of anything short of a military attack directly on the homeland.
Probably a really good point.
I was thinking that a more imminent or physical threat would be “galvanising” but then, the way information gets all twisted around these days, I don’t think such an event really exists.
All the reasons those guys did it are still there, nothing has changed yet so maybe? Hacking a plane got harder though.
Just changing the door on the plane made them basically impossible to hijack. The only real opening is to rush an open door.
Passengers are now also in the fight back mode rather than comply and let authorities negotiate ransom.
Some external group doing a terrorist attack? Nah, they don’t need to. The US can attack themselves easily and will. With the coming high court ruling coming about Trump being withheld from voting slips (correct term? Not being alowed to be on the list during election) will be a huge thing. Either the very conservative judges he appointed will rule he incited a riot and should not be allowed in office again (according to the intention of article 14 of the US constitution, which those judges say they adhere), or they will say it’s not up to us.
In the 1st case, the Trump adepts will start the 2nd civil war, in the 2nd case, who knows. Leaving it to the states could result in problems in some.
However you look at it, the USA is on it’s way to a massive implosion. With a destabalised political system like that, which state needs enemies. No real democratic system has only 2 parties.
I think the likelihood of another major terrorist attack happening on US soil is drastically higher now than 30 years ago. But thats due to a lot of factors, primarily increased political hostility and increased population density.