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heroic games launcher is a foss epic and gog launcher, works very well and very fast for me on linux. it has a windows version, too.
Oh this is very cool. Thanks for pointing me in this direction
Can recommend. Have it on my steam deck and PC. Runs great.
I didn’t know it had a Windows version. Thanks for the heads up 👍
It’s long because you have to copy and paste your password from the manager (and click “remember me”) every time.
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Honestly?
Steam probably puts more into security or something and has more confidence in themselves, and the others don’t and they know it and so they have half-assed approaches that put the burden on YOU to reduce their risk.
And more importantly, valve understands that convenience is the biggest reason anyone would buy games from them.
You installed WHAT?!?!?
Billy, no!
Billy gonna learn he ain’t ever to old for a whoopin’.
Cocks shotgun I just want to talk to him.
I just… I just wanna shoot him. I JUST wanna talk to him.
The competitor to the monopoly.
Why does it matter?
Market dominance ≠ monopoly
I say this because I assume you’re talking about Steam, and as a service comparible to the Epic Store, users have A TON MORE options, choices, even more autonomy on Steam than on the Epic Store. Reviews, reselling of keys, reselling of cards, infrastructure to host communities, support systems, bug ticket systems, the competitive sales events, etc.
Not saying Valve or Gabe Newell are perfect, not at all - they are profit driven - and Steam as a store and launcher does have it’s own issues.
But as far as I’m concerned the fact that Valve wants to bring commercial videogames to libre open source platforms, something Epic Games is against, is the deciding factor of why I continue to support this behemoth.
With the modern stack and infrastructure of today there is literally no reason not to port games to Linux, unless you want to rely on pervasive, kernel-level DRMs, which are inherently unethical because they take away control from the user and puts it in the hands of a company.
But that’s my reason. People have tons of reasons to use Steam, whereas Epic Store is just an exclusivity portal. Also, it’s launcher so soooo bad. Not just undernourished, but the UX design patterns make no sense - and when you do that job worse than Valve? Oh boy…
And again, technically speaking:
Market dominance ≠ monopoly
Epic Games, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo keeping certain fan favourite intellectual property on their store front exclusively? Monopoly. Technically.
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Meet ‘n’ HUH???
I find the video from LTT kinda hilarious with the 96 core threadripper. Breaking records in cinebench but Cities Skylines 2 still runs like shit (in a 1mio pop city).
Because chances are the 7800X3D will be faster due to the cache.
Real-world applications often can only be parallelized so and so much, before you start hitting diminishing returns for many reasons. A lot of it is about the actual technical design as much as it is the technical execution (you can’t parallelize two operations if one depends on the result of the other).
I’m not sure the 7800X3D would even run a mil pop city. They were using 64 of the 96 cores running Skylines 2.
Teeth don’t render themselves, buddy.
That’s the point I think. I haven’t delved into the specifics too much but the 7800X3D favors big cache sizes (at all layers iirc) over cores/threads quantity. So, it should fare better with games that aren’t very optimized for multi threading (ie, most games)
Also cache optimization has been a huge trend in games programming in recent years
The Epic Games store is so fucking behind I actually can’t understand it. Is there a single intern they rotate between semesters to build their client? It feels like yesterday they actually introduced a favoriting system to the library.
Do people just bash epic to bash epic?
No one I talk to in real life has ever had one of these complaints about the launcher, it has its issues, but logging and startup isn’t them.
Really? It takes ages to open for me.
Few seconds, steam takes longer. And I’ve never had login issues too.
Is it from linked accounts or privacy clearing techniques?
Weird, steam is so much faster for me. And I don’t do anything strange, just log in and use it, but almost every single time it asks for my password. I wonder if there’s a timer - like, if you don’t log in for a week, you have to give your credentials again?
Even without re-entering my credentials or actually completely closing and opening EGS within (reasonably waiting for all related processed to close first) a few seconds, it opens and loads/downloads my library content very late compared to Steam or GOG. Opening the store as default was actually worse.
So far all my friends have the same experience. The top commenter must be very lucky, or maybe their EGS program runs in the background at startup.
Even my friends have similar experiences, between steam and epic taking the same amount of time. Even before I upgraded I never noticed an issue like “minutes”.
On my beefy desktop PC it takes about 30s to a minute to open on a 4 year old SSD
Steam takes about 15s max, less usually but it opens on PC start so I don’t usually have to open it
On my laptop from 3 years ago steam is about a 22s open (doesn’t open on launch there) and epic takes well over a minute and a fucking half
The laptop hardware is just slightly older, lower versions of basically the same desktop hardware too so why the difference is so gd massive idk
But it seems like some hardware HATES EGS
No, of course I’m not saying it takes minutes on a computer from the last few years with a nvme. The duration in the meme is likely a blatant exaggeration for meming, or for a weaker computer (still a valid criticism point but another topic).
I just tried both. With the first start, Steam vs Epic timers are about 5vs10 seconds, while with a second launch Steam still keeps to 5 while Epic is down to 7 second for me.
These are all on a Ryzen 3600 with 3500wr nvme and a 3200mhz ram, but friends have both worse and better PCs in all regards and still notice the difference.
5 vs 7, even 5 vs 10 seconds on an enough PC isn’t and shouldn’t be something to fret about. Admittedly, my feelings of Epic being slower comes from still long first post-install runs and usage from 6+ months ago, and in my case Epic opens quite quickly these days.
Edit: Checked your vid, and yeah, something similar on a second-run, but albeit with a flashing Epic logo once, but in a similar duration in total.
Yeah by default epic runs at startup
I7 13700kf 64ram 4080
Like I get I have few issues from the newness and overkill, but credentials shouldn’t be a hardware issue, and sometimes new components do weird things loading wise. My old 2600k did things better than newer chips for years.
Edit, I wonder if internet speed matters, I’ve got gig internet.
Interesting to see this discussion because I don’t use epic because I don’t play many games outside of TF2 and space engineers and I more or less just use steam to auto update blender and tell me how my PC is doing so all I experienced is steam taking about a half minute to open every time.
Why would I bash EGS? How can I even bash it when it doesn’t support Linux?
Yes. Over the years I just stick to Steam partly because it actually keeps me logged in and actually functions faster than a snails pace.
Uplay/Uconnect whatever they wanna call themselves today is the worst. But Origin/EA and Epic ain’t much better.
egs games are drm-free and with Legendary it’s a really nice experience (I’m using legendary with playnite)
never lost my token/login
the epic servers are kinda slow tho
There are valid reasons to bash Epic. I’ve written about some of them in another comment thread I made on Lemmy, but the overall problem I (and likely many others) have with them is a combination of their CEO’s hypocrisy and the company’s actions.
Same here. I run it on windows 11 and sign in with Google… never really noticed any performance issues.
While both of our claims are anecdotal, I’ve had it cause performance issues. It definitely isn’t the normal behavior for EGS and was probably a bug, but on my system it was sometimes sitting in the tray consuming 10 GB of system memory (and causing excessive swapping due to memory pressure).
I didn’t realise you could bash it? Isn’t it a GUI application? And one that needs to run inside wine at that?
Wow Ubisoft game launcher opens in… Never? Wtf I paid money for this game and then I need to buy it again because they didn’t actually give me the account and now the launcher is just dead and I can’t even open it.
Fuck that. I bought one of the assassins creed games legitimately, then had it refuse to launch after a few weeks because they updated their launcher and borked it. I then pirated that same game to bypass the launcher issue and pirated every other ubisoft game since then.
If I have to pirate games to get around a deliberate flaw you worked into your program, I’m not paying for that game.
Yeah I paid $30 for rainbow 6 siege I expect to be able to play it for more than 2 weeks. Like honestly it would be so much cheaper and easier to just use the steam launcher, since the game is already sold there, but no they have to be special.
use legendary
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I hate that. I have to look up my password every single time.
Change your password to ‘Skirt’, then you’ll love looking up your password.
Lol, I wasn’t fully awake when I read this, and it took me a second. Well done.
Electron + hell lot of JavaScript.
Steam can’t be run in minimal anymore, internal browser always eats a GB of RAM if you want to play a steam game.
I decided about 10 years ago that I just can’t afford to keep updating my computer every couple of years just so I can play new titles. So now I just play old titles. And if you play old enough titles, you don’t even have to go to a torrent site. You can go directly to the Internet Archive.
I keep rediscovering games I loved when I was younger. I’ve been playing Skyroads lately. I still love the music. You know how long it takes to load Skyroads on a computer from 2015? I have no idea either because it loads faster than I can measure time.
This has been your lecture from a crotchety old man.
Well, now opens to a black screen in two minutes.
Might take a restart if you want some content in it.
Every other time I play Chivalry 2 I get an ad pop-up (or 2) mid duel. Maybe I should just re-buy on Steam…
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