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    He’s been talking about these tests for years now. This means he either gets them regularly, or got it once and keeps thinking he just took the test last week. Neither scenario gives me confidence in his mental ability.

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    My grandmother with Alzheimer’s passed those clinical tests long after she had already asked us to take away her keys because she knew she wasn’t safe to drive anymore. So yeah…

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      So what you’re saying is, he’s a stable genius who’s more than qualified, and extremely fit to be the president of the United States?

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        Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."

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          omg we’re so fucked. Even if he doesn’t get elected, the fact that people are encouraging this guy to be president is an expression of ourselves. We’re sick, and unless the healthy people make an indomitable stand against this cancer, we’re all fucked. I am truly scared for us all because the disease is taking control.

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            The march towards fascism is worldwide right now. Unfortunately, people by and large don’t want to think meaningfully about the world past their own personal existence. They want to live on autopilot - go to work, come home to entertainment, and if there’s an issue be provided with a reason for that issue to be upset with.

            They want to feel but don’t want to try, they want feels provided. Positive emotions are hard to cultivate though. It takes effort, connection, thought, compassion. For most people (some people just have issues), love requires a shared experience/reality. You and I share in our experiences and learn that we enjoy each other’s company and that grows into love and/or appreciation.

            Hate is easy. Fear is easy. Hate doesn’t need any of that. Hate and fear just need to be pointed in a direction. They don’t need validation. That makes it more accessible, more addictive.

            Whenever we go through this, we always get the “people are scared” narrative to explain why people support people like Trump, policies like the Republicans are pushing. I think it’s more base than that - people are indifferent and apathetic, just going with whatever thing makes them “feel something, anything” more. They then mostly sway to the right because blaming X, Y, Z for your problems is easier than traveling, meeting new people, and seeing that we’re all basically the same, all running on the same treadmill.

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          I’d like to mention this is a speech from his “prime”, back when he was campaigning the first time.

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          The fact that I can still grasp the basic context of this is incredible

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            That’s only because it’s in text and your brain will automatically ignore words that don’t fit. It’s much worse listening to it.

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    This has to be out of context bullshit. Someone running for president again can’t be that dense.

    “The first questions are very easy, the last questions are much more difficult. Like a memory question,” Trump preened in the interview. “It’s like, you’ll go, ‘Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.’ So they’d say, ‘Could you repeat that.’ So I said, ‘Yeah. So it’s person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.’”

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW FUCKING STUPID THIS MAN IS?

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      Yeah, are we all stuck in some endless emperor’s new clothes shit.

      Can anyone honestly argue that this guy isn’t either (a) super fucking dumb, (b) partially mentally deteriorated, or © both?

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          Your grasp of reality is fine but I would guess you haven’t been in any religious circles for a while.

          People still wrapped up in religion don’t realize their values are hardly shared through all of society and are taught anyone outside of the circle are a breed apart. They are going to hell. Some evangelicals get misguided into thinking they can ‘save’ the heathens and that’s where we get anti-abortion shit but that’s not really what Christianity teaches.

          The problems is there is just too many of them. You have all these people with these conflicting values saying they are inherently different than the non-believer so we can’t ever come together.

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      Yes, I do! That people want him to be the president is what’s so troubling.

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      The “hilarious” part of that exchange was it’s a memory test, so they give you a series of unrelated words (velvet, cracker, sleet, grandfather, doorway). Not only was the best example that his stupid stupid brain could come up with all related words, they were all (except maybe tv) things he could see at the time!

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        There’s almost always a monitor on set, which is basically a tv. So, yah. No exceptions.

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    You can’t ‘ace’ a cognitive test any more than you can ‘ace’ reading an eye chart. It’s a diagnostic test. And from the sounds of things, he needs to take it again.

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    “I think it was 35… 30 questions. And let me tell you, you know, they always show you the first one: a giraffe, a tiger or a whale. ‘Which one is the whale?'”

    He’s done this enough times that he knows the first one is always this question? How many cognitive tests has he completed? Did he pass the others?

    It’s also insane that the bar is this low. You recognize animal shapes, here are the keys to the nuclear stockpile, have fun.

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      All of this shit is just so upsetting on an existential level. How is any of this real? It literally feels like a completely different country than the one I grew up in.

      Bin Laden won. 9/11 broke everyone’s brains, then electing a black man made 1/3 of the population just go completely batshit.

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      I swear he’s said something similar before, and the quote appears incomplete as I remember him going on to say “From there the questions get more difficult”. As if he’s pointing out that the first few questions are no brainers. At least that’s my interpretation.

      This kind of clickbait doesn’t help anyone. Let’s focus on how bad his policies are, all of the legal trouble he’s in, and his lack of moral character.

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    He’s always delivered word salads, but now appears to be more confused. He exhibits strange posturing/coordination with that weird fist pump thing that he tries to do. Ongoing reports of his odor suggests incontinence.

    He might be able to whip up MAGA acolytes with angry invective, but he has dementia.

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    When does he start bragging that he kept the colors inside the lines when he crayoned the kids’ menu?

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    Trump will never be able to convince me that he’s not a fucking idiot. As evidence to support my position I’d like to cite everything he has ever said and done.

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      Could you imagine if you met the guy in a private, relaxed setting - and he was just some normal dude who was like, “yeah, I have to practice talking like an idiot to appeal to my base. It’s kind of exhausting, to be honest, but you can’t argue with results, so what can you do?”

      It would be absolutely mind blowing.

      But yeah, in reality, dude is obviously just a moron.

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      Right? No diagnostic test, no court of law can change the shit I’ve witnessed with my own eyes. If he’s not convicted of a crime that’s not everyone somehow assuming the worst and being wrong - we saw what we saw and if we can’t convict it’s only because our legal system is clearly bullshit. The guy belongs in a nursing home with a guy who thinks it’s still 1941. I don’t need a doctor to tell me that because I have fucking eyes.

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        Stares directly at the sun, wants to nuke hurricanes, advocates for drinking bleach, then there’s whatever the fuck this is:

        “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”

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    I love the fact that he thinks it good his doctor made him take a cognitive test.

    “Went to the doctor… smart doctor. Ronny Jackson, ladies and gentlemen. Hes a smart guy guy. Told me Nikki Haley has something going with her head, after her collapsing after that speech and i said you know, maybe i should take a cognative test right now and he agreed. Let me tell you it was easy. Had to identify a whale, let me tell you looked like Rosie O’Donnell… what a despicable person. I need a presidential immunity because of the witch hunts. Victor Orbán wouldn’t let this happen to him. Strong leader. Aced the cognative test and the concussion test after, too”

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    How many doctors quit before one would give him a passing grade? We’ve seen how he burns through lawyers.