• gnate@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Right, judging by the image, I assumed some of those games would run on Linux, but not Windows. Which didn’t make a lot of sense for a 90s Windows game.

    • Secret300@sh.itjust.works
      39·
      10 months ago

      In my opinion not at all. Linux started as a project from a nerd and nerds around the world joined in. I know now a day’s a lot of companies contribute but what they contribute is open for the nerds to use. Unlike the console wars where it’s company vs company with fanboys picking sides.

      Now it’s now neck beards vs industry and that’s way more interesting. I’m obviously picking the nerd/neck beard side cause fuck the big corp

    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
      13·
      10 months ago

      Even worse, cause one side isn’t giving a fuck about it.

      Like, which Windows user cares that Linux is getting Windows-emulated games? Literally no one. Let alone enough to cry about it.

    • HotPurplePeach@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      10 months ago

      I prefer Linux as a OS, so I’m really happy that I can play games that aren’t supported by devs. And it has benefits - since Linux is a better OS by a mile some games work better on it. For example Valheim on Windows is unplayable for me since it shuts down my computer after 5 - 20 mins, while on Linux it runs without problems and has smaller FPS drops in my gigantic castle. Maybe it’s a bad example since it has support for Linux, but Ravenswatch doesn’t and also has better performance on Linux through Proton.

    • FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml
      1·
      10 months ago

      well, not entirely, it doesn’t cost anything to switch operating systems. if something is a console exclusive, say goodbye to $570

      • answersplease77@lemmy.world
        23·
        10 months ago

        I wish you answer me one more question. I bought games on steam that later found they’re “Windows only”. I can’t play these games on the steam I installed on my linux pc. I can only play them on the steam of my windows pc.

        Can I play them on linux using Proton? If yes, then this might allow me remove windows from my life completely

        • Hazrod@lemmy.world
          23·
          10 months ago

          Yes you can, on Linux steam, go to the game’s properties, then click on the compatibility tab, and finally check the"force the use of…" Line. You should then be able to install the windows game on Linux and play it using the proton tool automatically

          • onelikeandidie@lemmy.world
            14·
            10 months ago

            If you can’t find that tab, it could also be because you need to go to steam settings and enable steam play for all titles (which will let you use Proton with any game)

        • 0ops@lemm.ee
          19·
          10 months ago

          Search for the game you’re looking to run on this site: https://www.protondb.com/

          If it runs, you’ll find reports on what it took to make it happen, if anything, and how well it runs

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
            3·
            10 months ago

            If it runs, you’ll find reports on what it took to make it happen, if anything, and how well it runs

            Kind of wish those comments/reports were curated better though, as they get old fast, and may contradict themselves after a certain time, offering what is now bad advice.

            You kind of learn not to look at the older comments when you’re looking for a particular game.

        • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
          9·
          10 months ago

          Look the games up in protondb for user experiences. Also Proton is not a Garantie. I have a great experience with proton and steam deck is running with proton, so valve makes money with proton and improve it daily. But it is NOT A SURE THING.

          Again great tool, but it has a limit. E.g. valorant doesn’t run.

        • HotPurplePeach@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          10 months ago

          Yep, even if the game is Windows only and you’re a Linux guy, you go into the Steam properties/settings for that game, click on the Compatibility tab, and then check the “Force the use of a specific Steam Play compatibility tool”. Chances are the game will work fine, but if it doesn’t you can try some other version of Proton. Alternatively, there is also Wine but I didn’t touch it yet and heard it’s a pain in the a**

        • Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
          3·
          10 months ago

          Some games proton might not be enabled by default - on Linux go into the steam game settings for the game you want, click the compatibility page, and check the box “Force the use of a specific Steam Play compatibility tool”, select the version - if one doesn’t work, try another - proton 8 is a good start, proton experimental is usually a good second option. Wait for steam to download proton if it hasn’t already, and the game should now play like normal

          Note: some games might require additional configuration, or custom versions of proton to work. Other games won’t work due to anticheat.

          https://www.ProtonDB.com is a good option to check on games and see how to get the more complicated ones running.

          https://Areweanticheatyet.com is a good way to see what games that have anticheat will work and what won’t work.

          For non steam games running proton try installing the heroic games launcher - it’s like a combined launcher for Epic, Gog and Amazon Games.

  • LaggyKar@programming.dev
    16·
    10 months ago

    It’s too bad the native Linux versions of old id Tech 0/1/2/3/4 games aren’t being posted on Steam.

    And worse, for the old id Tech 0/1 games it’s not even the Windows version, nor a native emulator, it’s running the DOS version in the Windows version of DOSBox in Proton.

    Although now I notice this is actually a remake, not the id Tech 1 original.

    • nebula42@lemmy.today
      20·
      10 months ago

      You do know gzdoom exists, right? You can play old id games and games based on the doom engine natively by purchasing them and running the .wad file through gzdoom.

      • Verat@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        10 months ago

        This is true, but for idtech 3 and 4 games there were official Linux binaries, but they arent distributed by platforms like steam, even though they already ship Linux versions of other games. Quake 4 or Doom 3 was I think the last of the official Linux binaries from Id.

      • LaggyKar@programming.dev
        2·
        10 months ago

        I know, you can set the native version up outside of Steam, (and they’ll probably be superior if it’s a source port). It would still be nice if the version Steam gave you was a native Linux version.

  • jaschen@lemm.ee
    12·
    10 months ago

    Um, I tried Mint for gaming and while the community is strong on helping me figure out what was wrong with my video drivers and my Logitech steering wheel, i realized I could just not run Linux and spend the time actually playing my working game on Windows.

    I’m not a Windows fanboy. The majority of people just want a turn key experience. Linux(for now) is not yet a trouble free experience.

    • ma1w4re@lemm.ee
      7·
      10 months ago

      Bro tried one distro and condemned the entire span of Linux systems. Aight.

      • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
        15·
        10 months ago

        You realise that having to try a whole bunch of other distros is so much worse compared to the “turn key experience” they’re after, right? And it’s a valid complaint. I generally agree with the sentiment, even though I’ve more or less sworn off Windows whenever I can possibly avoid it.

        • mutter9355@discuss.tchncs.de
          3·
          10 months ago

          Add to this that running Steam on Linux Mint is probably the most “turn-key” Linux gaming experience you’ll probably get

      • gmtom@lemmy.world
        7·
        10 months ago

        Bro didn’t even spend two weeks of his life fucking around with different distros and trying various workarounds and hacks trying to get them to work with his games before he just went back to playing games on a system he knows works. Aight

      • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
        3·
        10 months ago

        Bro tried one distro and condemned the entire span of Linux systems. Aight.

        Seems to be a reoccurring running theme.

        • ma1w4re@lemm.ee
          1·
          10 months ago

          Then don’t use linux. Whats the problem? There’s perfectly fine Windows for normal people.

          • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
            1·
            10 months ago

            Bro tried one distro and condemned the entire span of Linux systems. Aight.

            Seems to be a reoccurring running theme.

            Then don’t use linux. Whats the problem? There’s perfectly fine Windows for normal people.

            Think you’re missing the point.

            Seems very purposeful and repetitive.

      • KneeTitts@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        10 months ago

        Wine is an awesome feat of engineering to be sure, but even the gold level compatibility Windows games dont always work out of the box on any linux distro without a bunch of tweaks, installation of drivers, windows DLLs etc etc. Its time consuming and people dont have time, thats a huge issue.

        Another issue is when the inevitable distro update comes, you have a 50/50 chance of all those tweaks having to be done again (for each game) if something with the upgrade goes sideways. Even just updating wine itself can occasionally break things, and then you are back in the support forum looking for answers… for hours… instead of just playing the game. For slightly more advanced users I think Lutris is the way to go, you can configure the games yourself and launch them with various versions of wine or proton, and that seems to work pretty well in most cases.

        The right answer is for game manufactures to make the games for Linux, so the right answer is to get Linux desktop market share up over 10%, thats the only way to force the issue.

        • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
          3·
          10 months ago

          Another issue is when the inevitable distro update comes, you have a 50/50 chance of all those tweaks having to be done again (for each game) if something with the upgrade goes sideways.

          I get daily updates on my Fedora/KDE install, and I’ve never seen that happen, and I’m a avid gamer, playing games each and every day.

          Also, you don’t install Wine yourself directly into the OS, so you don’t have to worry about it breaking with a new OS update.

          You install a manager for Wine, like Bottles. Between Bottles and Steam, games install and run to the point you can’t even tell you’re running them on Linux.

          Bottles will even let you link your Bottles installed game into Steam, so you see it in your games list just like any other Steam game.

      • jaschen@lemm.ee
        2·
        10 months ago

        Initially, the game ran like a potato with input lag. Prime run was missing and then a few visits to forums and finally got the game to run at normal frame rates, which isn’t faster than Windows. Then it would randomly lag. 120fps to 30 back to 120.

        Then there was the issue with my Logitech 928 wheel, shifter and pedals. It straight doesn’t work and gave up figuring it out when I found that even at the highest fps, it was just equal to Windows.

        So basically I’m installing Forza Horizon 5 but with extra steps with no gain.

    • guskikalola :linux:@social.vivaldi.net
      9·
      10 months ago

      @thecookingsenpai @Titou Yet has to be said, I’ve been using linux for gaming for almost 2 years now, the amount of games you can play now compared to PlayOnLinux era is impressive.
      I only run into issues when the game uses windows only anti-cheats, but I don’t have many of those games ( I said goodbye to League now that they are adding Vanguard ), therefor I can play fully on Linux.

      • Swarfega@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        All my games run great. I have one annoying issue that I haven’t worked out the root cause of yet. But basically the issue is the computer goes to sleep/black screen whilst I’m playing with a joypad. It obviously thinks the PC is idle. However It doesn’t happen with Stardew Valley so I’m thinking the issue is non-native Linux games. Currently I’m playing Dredge which is Windows only so running via Proton in Steam.

    • voxel@sopuli.xyz
      2·
      10 months ago

      depending on what kind of games you play.
      if you play mostly offline or indie games, you won’t notice any difference.
      like half of online/live services games (e.g. League of Legends, Rainbow Six Siege) that include anticheats are borked

    • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
      2·
      10 months ago

      Not just that but an HD re-release supported by the original creators, approved by General Mills, and last I checked, free. It ran flawlessly on my deck a few months back.