OpenAI: 'We also don’t allow GPTs dedicated to fostering romantic companionship'

ChatGPT’s new AI store is struggling to keep a lid on all the AI girlfriends::OpenAI: ‘We also don’t allow GPTs dedicated to fostering romantic companionship’

    • devfuuu@lemmy.worldEnglish
      50·
      10 months ago

      It’s not like we already have Japan with years ahead living this specific social crisis. Something could be learned.

      • Lesrid@lemm.eeEnglish
        25·
        10 months ago

        It’s amusing to me that Japan is somewhat of a forecast to economic crises and social obstacles for much of the world. They were grappling with sub-prime lending fiascos before it was generalized to the rest of the world too

    • CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
      36·
      10 months ago

      Nah, lets just call all lonely men “incels” and sweep the problem under the rug, surely that will never be a problem.

      EDIT: Thanks for helping me prove the point, everyone.

            • CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
              16·
              10 months ago

              See? You are doing it. Be sure to dismiss this response as something coming from an incel, my other half thinks it’s funny.

              • Nudding@lemmy.worldEnglish
                21·
                10 months ago

                Yes. Fuck incels. They’re pieces of misogynistic shit. I don’t care if you’re an incel or just some lonely guy, get a hobby.

                • CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  10 months ago

                  I have plenty. And I’m not lonely. But when I try to defend lonely fellas online, you say things like “get a hobby”.

                • Scubus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  2·
                  10 months ago

                  There is a distinction to be made here though. Strictly speaking, being involuntarily celibate is a shame, and not at all bad.

                  That being said, the term incel has addition context that isn’t strictly it’s definition, and that isn’t good.

        • bionicjoey@lemmy.caEnglish
          7·
          10 months ago

          One is a symptom of the other (both at a societal level and an individual level)

      • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.worldEnglish
        37·
        10 months ago

        If you don’t want to be called an incel, don’t blame your loneliness and lack of sex on anyone else. Everyone is lonely, it’s nobody’s fault unless you want to blame society as a whole which will get you nowhere. Continue to grow as a human and don’t stop trying to find new avenues of reaching out to others.

        And most importantly, never expect someone to like you in any way, no one is obligated to you.

        • CADmonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          10 months ago

          You guys are missing my point. Im not talking about incels, I’m talking about people who just call all lonely guys incels. The way everyone is happily downvoting me when I say this are proving me right.

              • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                10 months ago

                I am sorry you had to experience that, but it is very insightful and aware to know that your trauma would affect the perception. Most would gloss over that.

                Not saying this about you specifically ( I don’t know if you have things about you that you don’t like), but people who have things they don’t like about themselves also have a tendency to see criticism and insults about that particular thing where there are none. Like I used to be really over weight, so anytime anyone made jokes about something being large or about pigs or cows, I would internalize that and assume it was about my fatness because I hated that about myself.

          • GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.caEnglish
            5·
            10 months ago

            Incels are called incels. Lonely guys are lonely guys. If you’re being called an incel, there’s a reason.

          • Nudding@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            We are all talking about incels. Nobody here has a problem with lonely guys. I think you’re missing everyone else’s point.

        • Facebones@reddthat.comEnglish
          7·
          10 months ago

          You really swung for the fences over somebody saying “calling all lonely men incels are bad.”

          You ABSOLUTELY proved his point, this comment was so damn extra in relation to o what you replied to.

          • TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            I don’t mean to put myself in the place of anything - I just meant that the better course of action is to find improvement rather than fault. It’s a situation where being able to put the blame on something does nothing to improve the situation. We’re lonely because there are too many people is all.

            There’s a lot of people at fault for things in my life and if I worried about blaming them, I wouldn’t have had the time to get educated and grow as a human so that I could move past the things they are at fault, I was just trying to broaden that idea into something more general.

      • Nudding@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        10 months ago

        Is your point that incels are whiny bitches? We all knew that already but thanks for the reminder, I guess.

      • BradleyUffner@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        Incels aren’t just lonely. That’s not even their defining characteristic. They are primarily egotistical, misogynistic, assholes that no self respecting woman should suffer. Loneliness is just the symptom of that.

        If letting them have AI girlfriends makes them happier without impacting anyone, then let the AI girlfriends flow!

      • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        A lot of people in this very thread are dumb enough to think that saying sometimes isn’t an incel is the same thing as defending incels, and that you must therefore be an incel yourself. It’s really pathetic how people get triggered by a word like incel and just completely lose their ability to understand the simplest of statements.

  • AllonzeeLV@lemmy.worldEnglish
    66·
    10 months ago

    To be fair, it cares about you exactly as much as your OnlyFans crush.

    Probably a cheaper obsession.

      • veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        This is just a pr stunt.

        Nobody gaf about others psychological well being, so let em have the new opioid. At least there’s no collateral damage with this

      • bane_killgrind@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        10 months ago

        Humans are a cancer on the world if some percentage never leaves the house and therefore procreates we should exploit that mechanic

        • Pretzilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          Good point but they are already here and taking up resources.

          Let’s give them something productive to do to pull their weight and fix some of the terrible existential issues the world is facing.

          Get out and plant some trees for example.

      • cerulean_blue@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        10 months ago

        It’s not just Simps. Boomers are very vulnerable to this technology, especially the lonely or widows. For some reason, they can be recklessly trusting of internet relationships/technologies. Hence why they keep getting exploited by Romance and Pig Butchering scams and why they can’t get enough Facebook Trump/COVID misinformation.

  • _number8_@lemmy.worldEnglish
    37·
    10 months ago

    why? why not let people just retreat into fantasy? it’s probably healthier than many common coping mechanisms. i mean, it’s a chatbot, how much can you do with it?

    let people have their temporary salve to get them thru whatever they were going thru such that they were resorting to this. and if it’s not temporary, ok, fine? better to have some outlet than be even more mentally isolated. maybe in 50 years this will be common, who knows.

    • cyd@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      10 months ago

      Liability. Imagine an AI girlfriend who slowly earns your affection, then at some point manipulates you into sending bitcoins to a prespecified wallet set up by the model maker. Because models are black boxes, there is no way to verify by direct inspection that an AI hasn’t been trained with an ulterior agenda (the “execute order 66” problem).

      • Kittenstix@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        Yep, I was having a conversation with a guy that informs policy makers on ai, he had given a whole presentation to a school board meeting I went to a few nights ago.

        He said that’s his highest recommendation when it comes to what should be done on the lawmaker side, pass bills that push for opening up those black boxes so we can ensure transparency.

        • cyd@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          10 months ago

          Problem is, there isn’t a way to open up the black boxes. It’s the AI explainability problem. Even if you have the model weights, you can’t predict what they will do without running the model, and you can’t definitively verify that the model was trained as the model maker claimed.

          • Kittenstix@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            I see, my knowledge is surface deep so I admit this is new information to me.

            Is there no way to ensure LLMs are safe for like kids to use as a tool for education? Or is it just inherently going to come with some risk of exploitation and we just have to do our best to educate students of that danger?

      • dirthawker0@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        10 months ago

        Some guy in the UK was allegedly convinced by his chatbot girlfriend to assassinate Queen Elizabeth. He just got sentenced a few months ago. Of course he’s been determined to be psychotic, but I could imagine people who would qualify as sane getting too deep and reading too much into what an AI is saying.

    • devfuuu@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      10 months ago

      These kinds of things are not temporary. We know that humans can’t control themselves and aren’t rational enough to “just use it a bit”. It’s highly addictive and leads to people to remove themselves from reality.

    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      10·
      10 months ago

      I am pretty sure its just to avoid controversy, look up the recent news about “laion” for an example, gpt4 isn’t just text anymore, it can generate images also.
      Altman talked about we may sometime all have our own personal AI’s tailored to our own needs and sensitivities. But almost everyone has a different idea of if and where there should be a line.

    • ExLisper@linux.communityEnglish
      4·
      10 months ago

      I guess they don’t want to create separate NSFW category that has to be treated in a different way. They probably think it’s just to risky to get involved in that type of business.

    • KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nlEnglish
      10·
      10 months ago

      Exactly what I was thinking. The whole AI hype has been cringe so far and this just confirms it. Seems that the ratio between legitimate use cases and fucking around is kinda skewed towards the meme side of things.

      Or it might just signify our population has a HUGE lonelyness problem (for a myriad of reasons).

      • meyotch@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        Oh yes it is a symptom of a deep cultural malaise. I was talking to my square-headed girlfriend about this just the other day. She agrees with me and that’s all I need.

  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    10 months ago

    Why? Let it happen.

    There are zero issues with consent. It is a chatbot not a living or sentient.

    There are zero issues with STDs or pregnancy scares.

    No one is going to want this as a substitute for a real relationship and if they do you might be doing the world a favor by allowing them a way out of the datingpool.

    Sure it could be used for honeypots but we have had that for pretty much all of history. People fake affection or who they are to get what they want.

    I just don’t see how this is at all different than the forms of erotica we already have and society has adapted to.