If God can exist without a creator, why not everything else?

      • rosymind@leminal.spaceEnglish
        13·
        1 year ago

        All right. They did evolve by chance, but not by snowflakes. They’re part of a long chain reaction that eventually resulted in the evolution of human beings, who then gathered the snowflakes, and shaped them into balls, with sticks for arms and carrots for noses.

        Now, how those snow-people are having a conversation is beyond me. As far as I know, inanimate objects don’t speak intelligable words of their own volition. Yet. (A.I joke in there somewhere)

    • LillyPip@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Did you ever see a car assemble itself during a tornado? CAN A DOG PRODUCE A NON-DOG?!? Pinecones don’t make elephants!!

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    30·
    1 year ago

    So they’re saying their god is like a small child with nothing better to do on a snowy day, who will stop caring about you as you melt away into oblivion?

    Because I’m not sure that’s a very convincing argument in favor of their god.

    • Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      13·
      1 year ago

      I really, really want to send this as a reply to the person who posted this, but she used to work with me and she’s still friends with a bunch of people there. It’s not worth the workplace awkwardness.

      • BluJay320English
        19·
        1 year ago

        I’m not saying you should, but if she gets offended by that then it’s her own problem.

        She made a snarky post, you left an equally snarky response. If she can’t handle rational responses, then don’t post irrational claims.

        But idk… Maybe she’s a snowflake

        • reev@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          Isn’t “not handling rational responses to irrational claims” the basis of religion?

        • RandoCalrandian@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          In my experience many religious people have a very entitled attitude about this, where they can assert their delusions as reality publicly but anyone who calls out their bullshit is spewing hate speech.

          And if they can’t bring down some kind of authority, they’ll work in secret combinations to fuck around with you (the sheer irony)

      • themeatbridge@lemmy.worldEnglish
        17·
        1 year ago

        It’s particularly frustrating that the unreasonable people get to set the level of discourse simply by lacking in self-awareness or tact.

      • RandoCalrandian@kbin.social
        3·
        1 year ago

        Goddamn I hate the “we can agree to disagree, so long as my side is the culturally acceptable one that we can advocate for in the office, but yours is HR hate speech” attitude so many religious people have

      • platypus_plumba@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Don’t. Don’t push your ideology on people even if they do. Be better.

        Plus, there is no point in arguing about religion with a religious person, their belief is not rooted in logic and reason, so logic and reason won’t change their minds. Just let them be and live your life however you prefer.

    • umbrella@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Nah, everybody knows snowman are only alive when you put the sticks and carrots.

  • madcaesar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    1 year ago

    It’s one of the dumber arguments religious people make.

    You realize what is created by a creator by contrasting it with what you see in nature. You know a watch is created, because nothing like it exists in nature nor can it reproduce on its own.

    Humans on the other hand are just like any other of the billions of animals. We’re not special.

    And further to the point, imagine we were created and designed, what a shitty ass designer created us?? Short lifespan, useless at birth, susceptible to all kinds of diseases, weak unless in a group and our pleasure organs are mixed with our waste disposal organs.

    If that’s not the shittiest design I’ve ever seen, I don’t know what is.

    • Rediphile@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      1 year ago

      They think all of the billions of other animals were ‘intelligently’ designed as well. I remember Dawkins or someone had a whole rant on giraffes and the veins in their neck or something like that which makes no sense as an intentional design.

      • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        It was the laryngeal nerve. It travels down the neck to the arteries of the heart and back up to the larynx. It’s ridiculous if you look at it from a design point of view, but makes perfect sense when viewed through the understanding of evolution.

    • Sylvartas@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      But, hey, they made sure they didn’t forget the built-in combat drugs so we’re all much better at being nice to each other and shit ^(/s)

    • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      There was a religious sect around the 3rd century CE that thought this in a literal sense.

      That there was an original spontaneously existing man which in turn brought forth the creator of a copy of the earlier universe to which it was effectively God.

      (No, this is not Gnosticism, even though it has similar elements and was at a similar time. In that belief system there’s a Monad creator behind everything which created the forms being copied as well as the demiurge.)