Congrats to Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Czechia, and Slovakia for making the cut
That’s also the list of countries that have better internet than Australia.
Last I remember, the Baltic states have better internet than most of Europe and the US.
Yo, german bro here. When I go by train from my village Willich to fucking Düsseldorf I lose connection 2 times, going 10 kilometers into the state capital.
My friend in Wesel can’t reliably call his clients by car cause it’s just a connectivity minefield around there.
Send help
Germany is so far behind with wifi coverage, it’s insane. Fiber is also rare outside of the hotspots. I volunteered in a refugee center once and an ongoing joke among them was how war-torn Syria had better internet connection than Germany lol
I really don’t get it, if we in France did it, why not Germany?
Old farts in charge don’t care about it. Merkel has promised full net coverage a couple times but oh well. It’s definitely better than it was before, but there are still lots of areas where there is work to be done. As our saying goes: Deutschlands Mühlen mahlen langsam. (Germany’s mills grind slowly)
There has to be more than that with better internet
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Cyprus too. The EU’s farthest eastern outpost. 100km from Beirut, Lebanon.
Almost like news written in english tends to focus on english-speaking countries and their allies
The obvious context of this meme is articles that express the “consensus opinion of the international community” on some foreign issue. Like “international community condemns antisemetic criticism of Israel.” Or “international community condemns Niger coup, calls for original government to be reinstated so France can keep buying cheap Uranium from the second poorest country on the planet.”
Was about to say. Oh my God the interconnected western world cares about the western world!
More news at 11.
oh yeah that must be it.
Yeah fuck my local news station for covering local news. It should only be coverage about places that I will never go to, issues I have no control over, and be an exercise in guilt and self-righteous masturbation for the people running it.
let’s tune into Radio Saudi Arabia and find the real thuth! /s
why should I pretend like I give a shit about the third world when American media tells me everything I want to hear /s
Hasn’t the Israel-Palestine thing dominated American media recently?
Only Ham operators know the truth.
Personally I find bacon operators more credible.
And rich in flavor
South Korea is pretty good about pumping out culturally relevant stuff too. Honestly I’d say they do it better than Japan these days (not that I’m personally interested in stuff like k-pop, but it’s clearly huge)
Korea is certainly ascendant but I doubt they’ve passed Japan in cultural exports. At least in the US, there is anime and Sushi in basically every population center these days, whereas Korean BBQ and chicken are still mostly popular in large urban areas (where sushi is still way more popular).
Genuine question: How exactly are they more culturally relevant than Japan besides K-pop and maybe Korean novels? When it comes to matters besides entertainment, I guess I’m a little clueless.
Their movie industry seems to be on the rise, too. Not sure I’d say they’re outpacing Japan though
Not the OP, but I think that’s exactly what they’re talking about, entertainment. I don’t know if Korea has overtaken Japan in that sphere, but it’s certainly significant. I’d also point out that Korea’s COVID response was so organized that there was a period of time that it was being looked to and mentioned in the media which is culturally relevant (kinda like pointing out the Finnish education system or the German reputation for engineering).
Idk, I feel like Al Jazeera gets quite a bit of visibility and has a good amount of credibility, but Qatar isn’t on this map.
Credibility? It’s Qatari state media
It is, so you definitely want to keep that in mind when consuming their content. On the flipside, they have access to sources in the Middle East that your big mainstream western media organizations can only dream about, so you don’t want to ignore them entirely either. There are ways to be smart about it.
South Korea tends to make the cut also
The person who made this super accurate informative map must hate kimichi
Damn those Samsungs man, I need to get me some of those along with those cars…
I like to call this “The Commonwealth and Friends”
no dictators, no worries.
yeah,
these are the democracies that invaded Iraq/Libya to install a democracy.
I keep having to remind myself how much good it did to the people of Iraq/Libya.
and we all remember what a paradise those countries were. man, that time gadaffis son killed a waiter because he spilled soup. you miss him?
Libya now has open-air slave markets and has been described as a humanitarian disaster.
remember the black dude who gets shot for talking back in America ? anecdotes don’t prove a general point.
btw Libya was doing better under Gaddafi
country did better before war than after.
amazing
was that the reason for those arab springs?
was at least the weapon to kill gadaffi american so you can blame the west?
fuck hamas.
About as much as I miss Bush lying to us about WMD.
Iraq is absolutely a functioning democracy and not a dictatorship right now.
Libya would be if it actually got invaded, which 100% should have happened. UN forces not taking control of the situation is a huge stain on the UN.
Calling for the invasion of Libya is fucking monstrous.
Over a million Iraqis died due to the US invasion of Iraq.
They did mention the UN.
The UN working in Libya as peacekeeping forces would’ve prevented the monstrous situation we’re in now, at bare minimum. If you don’t believe that, you quite simply are not recognizing past UN peacekeeping successes.
I have never supported the Iraq War but to deny Iraq is currently a functional, if very deeply flawed, democracy is, in my view, to devalue the Iraqi citizens and the fledgling democracy they have.
The UN working in Libya as peacekeeping forces would’ve prevented the monstrous situation we’re in now
Because it’s that easy to counter Islamic extremism in a power vacuum. ISIS was active and gaining power in 2011, including in Libya.
to deny Iraq is currently a functional, if very deeply flawed, democracy is, in my view, to devalue the Iraqi citizens and the fledgling democracy they have.
The state of Iraq’s corrupt democracy as of 2023 is little better than under Saddam
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/4/16/the-long-shadow-of-saddams-dictatorship-in-iraq
And all it cost was over a million Iraqi civilian deaths, millions of refugees, and the birth of ISIS in 2007.
The 2015 British Parliament inquiry found that the Islamic extremists fighting Qaddafi would not have succeeded without western air power, weapons, intelligence, and personnel, meaning the best way to prevent the humanitarian crisis in Libya would have been to fucking leave Libya alone in the first place. The inquiry also found that the intervention was economically motivated rather than humanitarian.
Because it’s that easy to counter Islamic extremism in a power vacuum
Hey look I found the exact issue the UN peacekeepers address in these exact situations
The 2015 British Parliament inquiry found that the Islamic extremists fighting Qaddafi would not have succeeded without western air power, weapons, intelligence, and personnel, meaning the best way to prevent the humanitarian crisis in Libya would have been to fucking leave Libya alone in the first place.
Just let Gaddafi murder people who want democracy with superior air power guys. It’s simple.
hey look I found the exact issue the UN peacekeepers address in these exact situations
Yeah? And how the fuck did that strategy work out anywhere else in the middle east?
people who want democracy
The coalition air mission was to support Islamic extremists in battles against the Libyan government. Those rebels wanted an Islamic state in Libya, not a democracy. They were also committing racist pogroms and atrocities against black Libyans, and western operatives on the ground were aware of it the entire time.
Read the fucking article. Here it is again:
Read every word of it before you respond to me.
maybe you should read some articles from beyond the international community.
from beyond the international community.
I know it’s not your point but this implies asking aliens and I think that’s fun.
As to your article, I am not and have never defended the Iraq War. Iraq is still a democracy, and I hope it remains one forever. That would be the absolute least the people of Iraq deserve after that war.
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I would, quite frankly, rather live in a world with more democracies and more extremists than a world with fewer of both.
Liberal Democracy is the only acceptable form of governance.
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You know what’s not better than a flawed democracy? A dictatorship.
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Yeah, Iraqis miss saddam so much don’t they? Especially the Kurds.
I’m sure they don’t miss the Americans.
Bet they weren’t unhappy in 2014
I don’t miss Bush. A man I was too young to vote for, who lost the popular vote and was installed by his brother. A brother who got his position because his father was the head of intelligence service. Bush was a mediocre painter and a war criminal.
Japan invaded Iraq and Libya?
so boring
Yes
America is a dictatorship of money disguised as a democracy, and the others are vassal states in lockstep with American foreign policy. Most of them have colonized and exploited the rest of the world for centuries and they’re still doing it now, to the tune of over $10 trillion a year in net extraction from the global south.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X
Our results show that in 2015 the North net appropriated from the South 12 billion tons of embodied raw material equivalents, 822 million hectares of embodied land, 21 exajoules of embodied energy, and 188 million person-years of embodied labour, worth $10.8 trillion in Northern prices – enough to end extreme poverty 70 times over. Over the whole period, drain from the South totalled $242 trillion (constant 2010 USD). This drain represents a significant windfall for the global North, equivalent to a quarter of Northern GDP. For comparison, we also report drain in global average prices. Using this method, we find that the South’s losses due to unequal exchange outstrip their total aid receipts over the period by a factor of 30. Our analysis confirms that unequal exchange is a significant driver of global inequality, uneven development, and ecological breakdown.
“no dictators”
I guess I should be less surprised how this meme is sailing over people’s heads in here
I’ve had to stop myself from replying “woosh” to a lot of comments.
If a comedian gets up and no one laughs it isnt the audience’s fault.
it could be, if they are bunch of easily triggered snowflakes.
How many times has HR had to speak to you this year alone?
Human Resources ?
Ah it makes sense now.
Sorry but too many -wanna-look-clever abbreviations for my poor technical brain to keep track of in multiple languages to even care about. Since you only came to insult, demotivation went up even further. Male sure not to have meltdown, i have heard it can be detrimental for snowbased.
The biggest snowflake hath spoken. Ok you can siddown now, Andrew dice clay.
I’m not a comedian.
That is much is clear.
Maybe you should be a comedian, because I found that funny.
The world can use more than one comedian in it.
Me reading this comment a second after replying “whoosh” to a comment: face -> palm.
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I still don’t know where they got cigarettes in that movie.
edit: forum link
Great question!
Random video and forum with question:
WaterWorld, How many Cigarettes did the Smokers have? [6:06 | historicalnerd] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDZK9JGJEeE
I feel the same about the Battlestar Galactica reboot. Was there a cigarette ship in the fleet or something?
That one dude who smuggled tobacco plants into the hydroponics lab.
doc cottle had a colonies worth of supply in his locker
!mapsWithNZ
All Kiwis celebrating rn!
Is this post done in relation to some news story that just occurred?
Or is this just a generic First World versus Third World post?
It’s the ladder, then they missed a few First World countries on that map.
I think its pretty close to a map of countries that don’t recognise Palestine, or who continue to benefit from colonialism or globalisation.
I think its pretty close to a map of countries that don’t recognise Palestine, or who continue to benefit from colonialism or globalisation.
Ah, okay.
For what it’s worth, as someone who lives in the US, don’t just believe what you’re hearing on CNN (etc.), that is very one-sided Pro-Israeli.
There are plenty of people who want to see Hamas destroyed, but not the Palestinians. They want the Palestinians to live free like any other Nation on this Earth, and in happiness, and absolutely hate seeing what’s happening to them right now.
Palestinians tried peaceful protest. They got shot.
Hamas only exists because other strategies haven’t worked.
Don’t think you and I on an Internet forum are going to come up with the solution for world peace.
Hamas only exists because other strategies haven’t worked.
It’s been said that it’s Iran that lets Hamas exist, as Iran is trying to control and influence the region of the planet they live in (as any other major power would do in their corner of the world), and that their primary goal is not peace between the Palestinians and Israeli.
But again, we’re not going to figure this all out on an Internet forum.
So that’s why innocent protests in Palestine get protestors shot?
Don’t let the perfect solution prevent you from finding any solution.
So that’s why innocent protests in Palestine get protestors shot?
Ultimately, yes. We’re all more interconnected with each other than we’d like to admit, and violence begets violence.
Don’t let the perfect solution prevent you from finding any solution.
I never do.
“It’s the innocent protestors’ fault that they got shot.”
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The solution is known, it’s a secular state - which the US is actively opposing.
Not sure I’m understanding you correctly or not.
Are you saying that the US should force Israel to be a secular state?
Can one country force another country as to what their belief system should be?
The masses may be opposed, but you’re just the cattle that feeds the beast.
Moooo, I guess. /shrug
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If you want to see the Palestinians live free then you want israel destroyed.
Look how Israel murders non Hamas Palestinians in the west bank and colonizes their land.
israel is a cartoonisly evil version of Jews that became the Nazi’s themselves. Hamas is the result of people having tried every form of peaceful solution with israel and israel continuing to commit genocide.
If you want to see the Palestinians live free then you want the israel destroyed.
No I do not. I want them both to live.
The israeli state needs to go, their people don’t need to die for that. Jews couldn’t live in peace with Hitler either. Now that Hitler is gone they can live in Germany again
israel is a Nazi-esque ethno state based on racism and discrimination. Unless that is removed you can’t even begin to think of peace. Nazi’s need to go.
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‘Western’ media is known in the outside world to report the horrific truth AFTER a war has ended. Or they just wait until enough people make a stink about it, look at Ukraine in their second war.
Just look at what happened in the Bosnian war, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Qatar, Africa, Asia… And the atrocities committed there were systematically underreported. Sure, they’ll write a few uninspired paragraphs about it and move on.
I’m not saying Eastern media isn’t biased, they report more emotional so you have to filter that out. And it’s an active war, so they might get some misinformation. But over the years they proved to be more often than not right after everything’s done. (Looking at you Srebrenica and all the US wars).
Then the Western media swoops in and makes some documentaries about facts most people with a satellite dish or a second language already knew. Thoughts and Prayers.
After the Ukrainian war started this changed. It’s the first time everybody and their mother can follow the war while it’s happening.
Now it’s happening again in Gaza, but journalists are getting killed en masse because the other side knows about it.
I really recommend everyone to read and watch different sources from different countries/languages and make up their own mind. There’s Google translate if you can’t speak several languages.
I don’t know what news you read but what you’re saying is wrong - there definitely has been extensive news coverage on all the wars and conflicts you mentioned, it’s just a matter of reading them.
For christ sake Bosnian war was ended by the west when the public pressure to stop a literal genocide grew too large, the massacre of Srebrenica being a massive catalyst to it. How “eastern media” was suddenly more right about it than western sources who actually were there is a point I either misunderstand or, more likely, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Also calling eastern media “more emotional” has that little subtle bit of racism, really putting the irony as the icing on this horrible comment.
There are many reasons to read all media with the assumption that it is biased but this isn’t it.
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Yeah idk. It’s just that calling someone “emotional” is very belittling. oh those palestinians seem very emotional about the whole hospital oopsie-woopsie
the first time everybody and their mother can follow the war while it’s happening
You’re thinking of the Gulf War. The invasion of Iraq was literally televised (almost) live everywhere on the world. Vietnam also had an extremely high reporting rate which contributed to the anti-war protests and movement in the US and the eventual withdrawal.
Also, targeting journalist to kill them is an old-time tradition amongst war criminals ever since the journalist profession was defined in the like XVII century.
New Zealand is happy to be included