Eat farts.
Aww thanks dude, appreciate it !
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Who do you think I am, Chuck Berry?
No, you’re Assman. Own it.
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Can’t tell you how strongly I disagree. It feels like the first people on Lemmy are the most insufferable know-it-all and holier-than-thou types from Reddit. Say anything about Microsoft or Windows? Here’s 15 commenters telling you how much better they are for having Linux, and 2 commenters on topic, only to be called inferior by the Linux users. Same for Photoshop, same for social media, same for any paid software.
And everyone who has an opinion must insult anyone who disagrees like it’s political Twitter, only by people who think they’re smarter cause they were never on Twitter.
Lemmy is so toxic it’s delaying its development. People lurk cause there are too many assholes talking over everyone else.
The only thing that’s better is there are less of those “um ahcktually”, pedant types. If you say “everyone”, people mostly understand you don’t literally mean “everyone.”
You must be a car driving capitalist tankie to be hatting on this place.
jk, I definitely agree. This place is way more radicalized than Reddit, or at least it isn’t nearly as diluted by bots so it seems more prominent… Some dope people around here but I’m definitely losing hope that this place will grow into a cool place.
It’s all the same topic posts and the same hateful comments, but you can’t even find small active communities to get away from it.
I like risa on startrek.webaite, for one. you can def find cool communities.
Risa has gotten weird lately. I don’t find the meme as funny anymore. A lot of them just seem like the ‘oh so random’ humor that was funny when I was in middle school.
Good to see your input and how many people agree with it. I kinda agree, I am one of those jerks that will pray for open source alternatives, lmao, not so for paid or social media. Still being part of majority, I agree with you. I kinda miss the christian memes from reddit, it used to take the bible and interpret in some way, not as it was written.
As somebody said, lemmy have instances. I don’t think we are in the need to make more, but idk about that and it’s just an opinion. I think the next step is creating communities that a lot of people miss from reddit but feel they wouldn’t be welcomed due to existing communities and the current mindset in Lemmy instances.
Thanks for the comment and saying what a lot of us have been wanting to say.
Say anything about Microsoft or Windows? Here’s 15 commenters telling you how much better they are for having Linux,
Eh. That’s like the repeat of “Reddit is an anti-American circlejerk”: No, it isn’t. Never was. It was simply the place where many Americans first learned that people who live beyond the brim of their burgers actually exist, and have opinions.
You’re on a FLOSS platform. Don’t be surprised if fanboying for an aggressively monopolistic multinational with inferior technology, held up by duct tape and bribes to system integrators, doesn’t make you friends.
Uhh yeah no. I was on reddit for over a decade and the anti-american circle jerk (that is alive and kicking on lrmmy, btw) became much worse over the last few years.
Lemmy loves to pretend it’s culturally superior to reddit, but now we’ve just concentrated the elitists and political extremists into a smaller pool of users.
No, neither reddit or lemmy are anti-American. Not even unamerican. It’s much, much worse: They’re non-American. Reddit by I think a small majority, lemmy much more so.
If, then, a random jingoist Seppo comes along and considers themselves and their dysfunctional country god’s gift to humanity, well, it’s easy to predict how much people will cheer that on.
Add to that another, equally exceptionalist, breed of Seppos, just that those don’t think the US is the greatest thing to ever grace humankind, but the worst. That’s not anti-American either, they’re still exceptionalist and they’re still Seppos. Hexbear and lemmygrad are full of them.
Also y’all don’t get what taking the piss entails.
I agree with the sentiment that we are on a FLOSS platform, so most people are going to prefer Linux.
But the rest of that comment is silly.
Saying anything about Windows/Max doesn’t mean the commenter is fanboying.
Also, are you saying you dont believe social media was manipulated to interfere with American politics?
And the last one really cracks me up about making friends. “Aggressively fanboying” Windows or Mac doesn’t make you friends, but fanboying Linux does? You and I are definitely in different areas of CS then ha!
I think “fanboying” in general is the actual issue
Also, are you saying you dont believe social media was manipulated to interfere with American politics?
I sense a veritable iceberg of a conspiracy theory, there: You think Reddit and lemmy are “anti-american” so as to influence American politics?
Pretty much anyone outside of the US doesn’t need an ulterior motive, be given money or whatever to talk shit about the US: You’re providing ample of reason and opportunity to do that as is, there’s no need to get the Russians or whoever involved. Also they’re only stoking flames (on both sides and a couple more), without a base level of idiocy they would have nothing to work with.
Saying anything about Windows/Max doesn’t mean the commenter is fanboying.
Why if not for that would they get a negative reaction to that here, then?
“Aggressively fanboying” Windows or Mac doesn’t make you friends, but fanboying Linux does? You and I are definitely in different areas of CS then ha!
…you’re in CS but not a developer or devops? You work at a soul-sucking job writing software for machinery or such that for have to run windows? Like, dunno, ATMs? And you and your colleagues developed Stockholm Syndrome?
I don’t have to run windows, or anything. I can run what I want.
But the people who shoehorn Linux into every conversation are also the ones who spend more time finding acceptance online rather than actually being “friends” with people IRL. Tbh, I have you coined for a stereotype I know and I apologize about that. I can’t help it. I just know mfers who talk like you are commenting so my bad if I attach opinions to you, I really don’t mean to. That’s why I’m trying to ask questions.
But you do not believe social media is manipulated then, and is just a conspiracy theory? I never accused any party of being behind the manipulations and I haven’t provided any theoretical motivations. Just wondered if you believed social media is an accurate portrayal of the populations opinions.
Also, mfers try to act superior cause they got Linux, that’s why they “get a negative reaction”. Look how you are reacting to someone just mentioning the idea of mentioning windows ha!
Just wondered if you believed social media is an accurate portrayal of the populations opinions.
…of the population of the people using it, mostly, yes. Of course, we’ll never know what the lurkers think. None of it should be used for statistical analysis but you’ll get a reasonable spread of opinions deemed acceptable in a particular place – for example, on lemmy you’ll be hard-pressed to find Nazis or Trumpets as no admin wants to deal with that kind of headache. Tankies, too, can be readily seen to run a manipulative agenda and they’re not entirely welcome. Frankly speaking influencing stuff just by posting is rather hard, to have to influence content discovery algorithms (which are dumb as bread in lemmy’s case and that’s good).
Also, mfers try to act superior cause they got Linux, that’s why they “get a negative reaction”.
Dude I’ve been running Linux as my primary desktop since the early 2000s, I’m too old for that shit. Back in the days I was a freshly-baked programmer tinkering around everywhere, by now I largely simply want a system that a) works out of the box in a sensible manner and that b) I can mess with if required. I also have a windows installation for a game or the other and the occasional testing of builds and believe me it certainly doesn’t fulfil a) and b), well, I don’t know it well enough and the documentation sucks.
The usual context I see Linux mentioned in on lemmy is gaming, or in context of just what at shitshow Windows 11 is regarding ads and whatnot. That’s not shoehorning.
But the people who shoehorn Linux into every conversation are also the ones who spend more time finding acceptance online rather than actually being “friends” with people IRL. Tbh, I have you coined for a stereotype I know and I apologize about that. I can’t help it. I just know mfers who talk like you are commenting so my bad if I attach opinions to you, I really don’t mean to. That’s why I’m trying to ask questions.
Can you give an example of people shoehorning Linux into conversations? Usually the only comment I see is already on Linux, and it’s the Arch btw’s, which is a meme in itself. Maybe you need to search for subs you like, and subscribe to them, and have subscribed as the default view. All may not be your cup of tea, like all was never my cup of tea on reddit. You’re not always going to be in the majority view, and that is fine.
I think the instance really matters. My ‘all’ feed is full of toxic assholes but my subs are mostly rad folks.
Totally agree. I stopped seeing toxic people when I left Lemmy.World. idk why that is. It’s not like Lemmy.world is a terrible place or anything.
Exactly. I don’t really like it here
Then why are you here? 🤣
Where else is there to go if you want a mobile friendly link aggregator?
Idk but if they don’t like being somewhere, then willfully going to that place is stupid to me.
I left lemmy a few weeks ago for this reason and I come back today to see what’s up and it’s exactly as you described. We aren’t the only ones either
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Curious, I’ve seen it all over lemmy. I’ve got a couple different accounts for… reasons, and on one I tried to make the point that for some demographics, like my parents/grandparents, Windows is the best OS. I was immediately berated for MANY reasons including, being a failure for not educating my family, not caring about my family’s safety, personally signing them up for the FasTrack to identity theft and scammers, and that Linux is ACTuaLLY simpler and easier to use.
This is pretty tame compared to the piracy guys as well.
and on one I tried to make the point that for some demographics, like my parents/grandparents, Windows is the best OS.
Yeah you’re pretty much objectively wrong there. With OSX you could’ve had a point but Windows is a nightmare if you have to administer a box for family.
…don’t tell me your parents and grandparents absolutely have to use 3ds Max.
How do you literally, literally run head-first into the point and still miss it?
I didn’t miss it. It’s rule 386.
What’s the 3dsmax bit from ?
It’s random software that indeed only runs on Windows. There’s not even a Mac version.
…but it’s also software that people generally don’t use privately, and for which FLOSS alternatives exist (Blender), arguably better software and because free also used by hobbyists, and even more insanely powerful commercial software that also runs on Linux (Houdini). Frankly speaking I’m surprised that a DOS 3d software package even made it into currentyear with all that IRIX competition.
I am familiar with it, I was just wondering where you pulled that from ? I didn’t see it mentioned in the OP
Some studios depend on it because they have a whole pipeline&talent revolving around it, but hobbyists ? indeed that’s weird
The main point is that there’s probably no Windows-only software that parents+grandparents absolutely need.
Same here — at least all of the communities I’ve interacted with
Same here. Maybe I’ve found a nice echo chamber to inhabit. Back when I was mostly using Lemmy.World I saw a lot of weirdos, but for some reason migrating to a different instance seems to have solved that problem. Maybe OP just needs to find an instance that works for them.
The problem is not a technology one, and creating a copy of the thing you hate isn’t going to get different results.
I never expected it to be better than reddit, actually I expected it to make things much worse through increased isolation of mobs. It does.
Only thing an individual can do is be the change they want to see and be nice to people, and resist the urge to “other” everyone they interact with.
That said… if this is OPs lived experience we should be happy for them. They’re having a positive experience that we all want.
When I left Lemmy.World I stopped seeing toxic behavior on the regular. I am not sure why this is. I am following all the same communities I was before, so it’s not like I left any toxic communities. Even the hexbear people seem mostly civil now. It’s like all the crazy people left.
Maybe you just need to find an instance that suits you?
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Go choke on a bag of cocks and die.
Ah, feels just like home.
Threaten me with a good time
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Mom??
Except on news and world news that for me are exactly the same.
The rules are simple:
- Don’t be a communist
- Don’t be not a communist
- If you have a car, do not talk about it
If you follow those easy steps you should be fine
- Don’t not hate Capitalism, even as a joke.
- Don’t post anything a child can’t understand.
- Don’t admit you use Windows
- Don’t talk about any browser other than Firefox, Librewolf or a spinoff
- Linux, Linux, Linux.
I always poke those bears.
“Linux isn’t an OS, but you GNU that.” Haha, gets 'em every time.
Don’t talk about any browser other than Firefox, Librewolf or a spinoff
This. I dared to say that I like Brave and I vehemently hate Mozilla and… Oh, boy…
Hanging at dawn then?
I try to use Firefox and Librewolf as much as I can, but the fact is that I’m a student and the websites my school uses for certain classes do not work on Firefox/Librewolf. I’ve also run into issues with certain other websites not running right and then when I switch to a chromium browser everything is fine. I don’t have the knowledge to properly troubleshoot if the problem is on my end or just a shitty website, so it’s just easier to use Brave when I need it.
Don’t not hate Capitalism, even as a joke.
That’s my problem
You should see my last post, oof.
It’s inherently wrong, lest you meant the fallacy was replacing with the new words
I know these are meant to be funny but double negatives always piss me off so much. Like they are literally useless and make parsing the sentence for meaning harder because they add a bunch of noise in front what you are actually saying.
Rule 5.
“Don’t like Capitalism, even as a joke.”
Yes, I broke rule 5.
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Serious answer: that doesn’t say what I said. My statement has no state where “liking capitalism” is an option. If someone says, I hate capitalism because X, and you say X is wrong because funny reason, you’re not saying “I like capitalism because funny reason”.
Lol. I broke the rule, I deserve the punishment.
The car thing is insane, even when you explain that you live in as regional area with limited options AND that I can drive to work in 20mins vs 60mins on public transport, you still get yelled at.
The sane ones make a decent point about infrastructure (I’m definitely anti-car).
Blaming the individual for the lack of realistic options provided by the government is pretty nuts.
I’m in regional Australia, it’s unrealistic to ever expect public transport to overtake private transport, we’re too spread out.
I minimise my driving, but I couldn’t survive without my own car, it’s not a black and white issue.
Sure. I get that. Where I get kinda confused by some people (not blaming you for this!) is when the extrapolation comes out. “We need cars to cross this massive gap between cities, and that’s why we shouldn’t build this tram line in the middle of this densely populated city”. Similarly, just because I think we should (talking about the EU here) make big investments into rail and ban short-haul flights, that doesn’t mean I don’t see the value in transatlantic flights.
Sorry for venting, Romania’s a shithole when it comes to cars compared to the rest of the EU.
If you replace “cities” with “rural towns” you might have a better understanding of why we still need cars in regional areas.
Australia is HUGE, the rural towns are far apart and have low populations.
You can’t run a bus/train every 10-20mins for 3 people, you run a bus/train ever 2hrs for 40 people, and they’ll never change.
I’m all for accessible cities, for those that want to live in them, but you’ll never get me away from my quiet rural life on the edge of regional centre. The reality is the transport in my town of 40,000 people has an insignificant impact on the environment compared Sydney, for example, with +5,000,000 people.
I do get that for some situations and regions, cars are immensely valuable. I also could not agree more about the difference in environmental impact between dense, populous cities where everyone has a car and small rural towns where everyone has a car. That should be pretty self-evident.
All I was trying to say is that here in Bucharest you have some idiots that talk about cars and their necessity as if we’re in the Australian outback, where no alternative could ever be possible.
Just check the 15min-Town idea created in France.
We must realize that most actually town-concepts and public transport are build to seduce you to buy a car. (Mostly in western countries, where the car industry is one of the main successors.)
Oh the market is 40 min away and outside of the town and the bus only drives every two hours, well better buy a car or get lost.
Back to the 15-min Town, the concept is, there is everything you need for living (market, doctor, schools etc.) in an area you can reach in 15 min without a car.
Australia, 7.8M Km², 26M people.
France, 0.5M Km², 65M people.
You can’t compare rural France and rural Australia, the cities sure, build your 15min cities anywhere the population density suits it, but it doesn’t work in regional Australia.
You forgot “Don’t mention you use Windows” and “Don’t say you don’t especially bother about privacy”
Does anyone else drive a Tesla?
last time i checked, Tesla only makes cars (transportation wise)
I’m sure the robotaxi will be here any day now
Don’t ever dare speak of veganism ever or you’ll be faced with a bunch of “muh bacon”-comments
Instead of a random asshole from /r/conservative, it’s a random asshole from hexbear.net.
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If you think anti-communist sentiment on lemmy.world is too strong you might be a tankie. I think you’ll find it’s anti-authoritarianism.
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Well, as I said above, news and World News are aberrations to me, but I never saw beehaw discussions actually, I just heard a gossip and became biased.
It’s no different than reddit.
Small community: friendly and welcoming
Large community: shitty teenagers
It’s way worse
Oh, you haven’t been to a socialist community yet? I won’t ruin the surprise…
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This but unironically /s
You kinda need other commenters for that to happen…
You have a point
my experience: make a comment, wait a day is this thing even on??
Which communities did you subscribe?
Because my experience is a bit different, people here seem way more polarized with their opinion (which is always right) and angry at random stuff.
I think I never saw so many “landlords haters” in social media like in Lemmy…
Who would love landlords though?
People who love being housed and love capitalism, probably.
Is there anyone who likes landlords? Why would they?
I don’t like them, but I’m far from being a “anti-landlord activist” 😂
there is a lot of anger
yeah me too
I hope the devil uses your backbone as a ladder to pick apples in the garden of hell
That’s just phenomenal.
So far, I’ve encountered far more negativity on Lemmy than I did on reddit. Ymmv, but I feel like our smaller user base has concentrated the negativity.
There’s a delicious degree of irony that you’ve been downvoted for giving an opinion
But he went against the Lemmy circle jerk groupthink!
Sacrifices must be made to the fediverse or we’ll all be cursed for our disobedience.
The energy has been thrown off here because of his transgressions.
Quickly - someone say something about Arch Linux or about how capitalism sucks!!
I know it’s fun to poke the troglodytes, but they do bite and you might catch the stupid. Wear gloves.
Psshh - everyone knows gloves are a leburoal hoax.
Some of us just use Ubuntu and want to give high fives to kind folks. Therapy helps ❤️🙌
Ugh, Ubuntu? I need to take a shower after reading your comment.
If you aren’t installing your own window manager from an overly drawn out install process, does it even still count as Linux?
You might as well just be running Windows 11 at that point.
I’m guessing you forgot a /s? 😁
Ah, now it’s really feeling like Reddit.
Having bounced back to reddit a couple of times, I haven’t had that experience. Talking here seems to lead to more thoughtful responses. Also some small minority on reddit love the unexplained downvotes of disapproval for perfectly well intentioned, polite posts, and there’s less of that on Lemmy.
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Evil
Go for it.
It’s all beans anyway
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Yes.
It took way to long, upvoting every comments to finally get to some beans
No way bro! Can’t get me, I have a canned goods identification dog!
As an example, I started c/52weeksofbaking (copied over from reddit). Its a place for amateur bakers to challenge themselves, try new things, and share their successes and failures. There’s zero reason to downvote posts there. I stickied a request for people to not downvote in that community. It’s currently sitting at 20 upvotes and 18 downvotes.
We can make fun of people for caring about fake internet points, but if we want to get more people to use lemmy and create content, we need to create communities that feel welcoming.
Kind of like people insulting OP in this thread, if you specifically ask people to not downvote something, they will downvote it. I don’t think it’s a serious sign of ill will.
I like how kbin works in this regard - while downvotes are available, kbin doesn’t federate downvotes from other instances. So sometimes I’ll have a post that looks like it has a mild positive score and someone will say “not sure why you’re getting downvote” and I’m “huh?” Blissfully unaware. I think that while up/down voting can play an important role in moderation, voting and karma it didn’t quite work out the way reddit intended originally. Downs are so often used as a way to lash out at someone, and very highly rated posts are often just some silly joke vs. something truly constructive. It’s annoying and makes me roll me eyes to have one of those conversations where the other person downvotes each reply as soon as you post it.
I always find it funny. When I respond to someone and point out the flaws in their argument and they don’t respond but I get their one immediate downvote, I consider it a victory. They can’t respond with any kind of logical argument but also they’re upset about their inability to defend their point. It’s like two victories in one.
It was real flowery here for a couple weeks during the celebratory fuck Spez exodus when everyones third party reddit browsers died. But yeah, now it’s a cesspool of negativity.
Be generous with blocks, both people and communities. It makes a lot of difference.
Agree, I use connect and it’s great for blocking whole instances too.
It may depend on your politics or maybe just where you hang out. I know that Beehaw gets a lot of shit for their pre-emptive defederation but it may be the nicest general online community I’ve encountered in a long time.
Hey man… fuck you.
It’s the opposite for me, cuz it seems most of the serious communities are already circlejerks lol
Linux, tankies and moaning about reddit. That’s it.
It’s worse than that sadly lol
I have seen the word Tankies a ton since I joined Lemmy, but it seems like people use it for almost anybody that is political at all, lol. Is the definition of it that google gives accurate?
It gets thrown around a lot by people who don’t know the first thing about Marxism.
I’m a card carrying socialist so you think, with the communities I subscribe to, I would have seen some Tankies commenting, but I’ve yet to run across any Uygur genocide or Russian apologizing so far.
It really makes me mad when people accuse the maintainers of Lemmy of being Tankies when all I can find are very based essays they’ve written about socialist philosophy.
Edit: Just to be clear, I won’t tolerate any Russia/China apologism. My account being from Leemy.ml means I still see content from the people most likely to be Tankies. I’m always willing to admit I am wrong if someone makes a compelling argument. I’ve just been silent on this topic since people started complaining and this is my first real push back. I don’t want the Tankie slur applied to anyone who doesn’t deserve it.
Have you been to hexbear? It’s very thick over there with that kind of shit
Since Lemmy.ml is still federated with Lemmygrad and Hexbear I see their posts and comments pretty regularly.
That’s why I’m aggravated that I see people complaining about those groups but haven’t seen the rhetoric their accused of. 😔
I genuinely want some links to examples. It would make me sad but I can accept if I’m wrong.
>Lemmy.ml account
>I’ve yet to run across any genocide denial.
Mate, how far have you buried your head in the sand?
I joined Lemmy before the mass exodus, when the three major servers were Lemmy.ml, Beehaw, and Lemmygrad.
What do you mean by pointing that out?
I’ve seen more than my fair share of Lemmygrad posts and comments.
I stand by what I said.
I’m happy to look at any links to comments you dissaprove of.
I have seen a couple of tankies, but I think most of them left Lemmy.world when Hexbear and Lemmygrad got defedrated.
Yes it is, spend some time on lemmy.ml/hexbear and you’ll see them.
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Tankies are anything but leftists. They’re authoritarian shitheads that have more in common with the far right. Everything they stand for is at odds with actual leftist beliefs and principles.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
I’ve read this sooo many times, but for some reason “gorilla warfare” just fucking gets me every time, lmao
That’s probably why this one is so popular
Lol gorilla warfare, planet of the apes. But I think you meant guerrilla warfare copypasta.
No, I meant the literal phrase “gorilla warfare” in the copypasta gets me every time. You just made an honest wrong assumption, it’s no big deal :)
So that’s were the 800 billions of military budget went!
You are fucking dead, kiddo, as a copypasta we will forever upvote you.
Well. This beats the response I was gonna write. I might just copy this for regular use though.
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Literally my first thought, all the angry redditors are still here.
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Yeah the behavior just migrated with them off reddit
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Just don’t bother with them
Report and block them because they just act very tribal with a US vs them holier-than-thou attitude
They very typically brigade posts and are reactionary towards anything they percieve as a threat often employing bad faith tactics
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Wow, this post is absolute trash. You seriously took the time out of your day to create such an absolute fucking trainwreck of a post. I’m unbelievably disappointed and I don’t think I am going to be able to sleep at night knowing that such a horrifyingly godawful post exists on this site. My mental health has taken a hit and I may never recover from seeing this post. OP, this is all your fault. If you had just stopped for one second and thought about the ramifications of this crime against humanity, maybe you could have avoided traumatizing thousands of people. But you didn’t. I hope you’re proud of what you’ve done, shame on you.
You are really good at giving a bollocking
