• Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
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    The defendants believed that protecting the superiority of the white population justified the use of violence against perceived enemies including immigrants, ethnic and religious minorities, and anti-fascists, prosecutors said.

    The men also plotted attacks on civilian infrastructure such as electricity grids and railways.

    A police investigation showed that the defendants’ activity did not progress to the level of preparation for a concrete act of terrorism.

    Uh, fucking 'scuse me?

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      They where fantasizing about it in the abstract, but they didn’t go “right, next Tuesday, Mika’s Market, 12 o’clock”.

      Seems like a reasonable distinction to make.

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      What they did was what the police calls, in technical terms, Monday morning. They didn’t even get up to the practice ethnic minority beating stage. /s

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      Hundreds if not thousands of Finnish cops got caught belonging to a chat group where they were sharing pretty explicitly neo-Nazi material. A few cops even got caught planning to murder leftist politicians and making it clear that they’d already used police systems to dig up information on leftists and given it to extremist groups.

      Nothing ever came of either of those. The prosecutors sided with the cops in the latter case, saying something like “it’s not criminal to have bad thoughts.”

      Saying that the majority of our cops and prosecutors are literal fascists probably wouldn’t be far off the mark, much to the surprise of exactly nobody.

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      NY is trying to pass a law requiring a firearm background check to purchase a printer.

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        So let’s say 3D-printers now have to be licensed, how would they be monitored for what they’re actually printing?

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          Those are completely different things. You have to get licensed for a firearm or car, but there’s no tracking what you shoot or where you drive.

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            Um… what?

            If you drive a car, your car needs a license plate. That plate is tied to you. If you commit a crime you’re likely to get reported. Also you can be randomly stopped by police and they will check if you have a driver’s license.

            For firearms, as far as I’m concerned, the ammunition has some sort of serial number, which in case of committing a crime, would allow the police to track you by contacting people who sold it to you.

            With printer, how then fuck is it going to change anything? Not to mention you can actually quite easily build it yourself.

            • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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              You still need ammunition for 3D printed weapons, even though i am very much certain, that the individual ammunition is not tracked or has a serial number.

              For 3D printers it is relevant information, so police can have a look into who has one, if they believe a printed weapon to be used, or find one. This in itself is not a criteria that warrants a search, but if Neonazi A is murdering someone with a printed weapon and Neonazi B from his Naziclub has a printer, that is a good place to start looking. Or like @ProcurementCat said, it creates a context in which people buy black market, which involves more fuck ups.

              Not to mention you can actually quite easily build it yourself.

              That is relative. It requires much more effort to build one, than to buy one. Especially if you need parts with a tight tolerance, like for a gun that can actually shoot things.

              In the same wake it is very much possible to make all the precursor chemicals to make illegal drugs, still regulating some key precursor chemicals keeps most hillbillys from making drugs in their backyard.

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          Hey, If they try to integrate all that surveillance shit into chat apps, why not search all printed 3d printer files for copyright infringement weapons and sexual abuse content?

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      There are idiots that will try, but it will then be pointed out that milling machines fucking exist and have for decades without being an issue.

      And I’m 100% certain I can get more useful parts out of a milling machine than a 3d printer.

      kicks his stupid fucking Photon

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    Region Päijät-Häme, Tavastia by the lake Päijänne. In the article, however, they dropped the dots, resulting in Paijat-Hame… Meaning “shirts-skirt”. Thanks for the laugh.

    Also race war? In Finland? They do realize there’s not that many people with foreign background anyways…? 🤨

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      Unfortunately that doesn’t keep fascist terrorists from murdering people. Breivik murdered 70 very much Norwegian teenagers because he blamed them for his insane replacement theory. That he apparently couldn’t find enough brown people in one spot, that he claimed to be replacing the Norwegian people didn’t get him to rethink his ideology.

      That is also why it is so important to fight any form of discrimination and stand against all hate. Giving in to hate in one specific instance will inadvertly lead to more hate and violence for everyone.

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        Yes, unfortunately on the internet, these conspiracy theories and such spread. These people are beyond delusional

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        He was happy enough to just be killing people who didn’t have right leaning political views, which is thankfully still most people.

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      Also race war? In Finland? They do realize there’s not that many people with foreign background anyways

      Yeah, it’s a real shocker that a society that good at keeping “others” out is racist… 🙄
      What isn’t a shocker, is that it comes as a shock to you

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        Lmao are you seriously trying to imply there’s some conspiracy in the Finnish society to keep “others” out instead of the fact that Finland was a poor shithole until relatively recently and people only really started moving in during the 90s which is also comparatively late

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Three Finnish men who embraced neo-Nazi ideology have been found guilty of committing crimes with terrorist intent including plotting attacks against immigrants, critical infrastructure, and their perceived political opponents.

    Prosecutors told the court that the men had produced semi-automatic weapons using a 3D printer in preparation for a “race war” against their opponents.

    The public broadcaster YLE said the case marked the first terrorism conviction in Finland that was linked to far-right ideology.

    The defendants believed that protecting the superiority of the white population justified the use of violence against perceived enemies including immigrants, ethnic and religious minorities, and anti-fascists, prosecutors said.

    A police investigation showed that the defendants’ activity did not progress to the level of preparation for a concrete act of terrorism.

    The fourth defendant in the case, a 66-year-old man, was handed a prison sentence of one year and two months for firearm crimes that were not committed with terrorist intent.


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    While I’m sure you can get good prints if you’re meticulous, I highly doubt you could print enough guns for a Nerf war, let alone a race war.