• RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    11 months ago

    you can get plenty of fats from a vegan diet if you are smart about it

    You don’t even need to be smart about it. French fries are vegan. As are Oreos, and probably a billion other things that can get you plenty of fats without trying.

    People seem to have the misconception that vegans just eat raw fruits and veggies all day (as evidenced by the fact that the “vegan option” at my work Halloween party was just a Costco fruit bowl). Most of the cooked veggies I eat are tossed in olive or avocado oil, a great source of fats.

    Sure, some of the vegans I know supplement D3 and B12 because plant based foods, unless fortified, are lacking in these nutrients, but guess what, those are super easy things to pick up at the grocery store vitamin aisle - a small price to pay for all of the other benefits of going vegan.

    All of that said, I’ve never met a vegan who had any difficulty getting enough fat in their diet.

    • PlantJam@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      11 months ago

      More people should be taking care of their vitamin D levels. It’s a really common deficiency.

      Getting enough fat is easy, but my vegan recipes are the only ones that I intentionally add extra oil to fix the macros. It’s just easier to eat a reasonable amount of fat on a vegan diet compared to a constant excess in a non vegan diet.

    • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      You shouldnt be using vitamin pills for any dietary supplement. You uptake ~10-30% if youre lucky. The pill goes right through you. It needs to be in a food item with some mass, so it stays within the digestive tract.

      • SkyeStarfall
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        11 months ago

        …but you still get the 10-30%?

        Yeah, it has worse uptake, just eat it with food.

        • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          Eating it with food doesnt change the uptake. It doesnt magically undissolve because there is food sitting beside it.

          If youre only getting 10-30% of a supplemental nutrient, youre going to still be deficient. Youre just now spending money to be deficient, when before you got to keep the money.

          • SkyeStarfall
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            11 months ago

            …you do realize that if your body takes up too little, you just eat more, right?

            I’ve taken blood tests. Nutrients in pill form work just fine.

              • SkyeStarfall
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                So, my doctor’s are wrong, my blood tests are fake, the healthcare guidelines to take supplements of you are deficient are wrong, and 10-30% uptake actually means 0% uptake?

                The scientific consensus is that supplements work just fine to treat nutrient deficiencies.

                • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  Yeah yeah, youre living proof that published research is all lies and scientists are all fakers, we get it. And Im former president obama

                  • SkyeStarfall
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    11 months ago

                    Do you honestly think that the scientific consensus is that nutrient supplements don’t work for treating deficiencies?

        • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          11 months ago

          Not really, because the pill just dissolves and flushes out with your piss all the same.

          Its not in the food. If you really are dedicated to using a pill form, you need to crush it and directly add it in with meal prep.

            • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              Yes, usually with the angle of “those bottle of vitamins youre buying are a scam”

              Its why vitamin gummies became a thing. The idea being that by making it a gummie, it needs to be digested, and thus will be uptaken.

              But Ive not seen any studies saying that the gummies actually pull that off. Maybe they do, Ive just not seen anything about it.

              Problem is the gummies are far less diverse and specific. Most are general purpose multivitamins. So if they do work, they usually miss the specific deficiencies people would want to target cause you just cant find em.

      • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        Many medicines have low uptake efficiency. It just means you need to take 3-10 times the dose you need. Like if your body needs 10mg, you might need to take a 30 to 100mg pill.