• hungryphrog
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    How can my instance be fascist or even anti-communist when most people here are leftist anarchists? We’re anti-tankie, not anti-communist. Also it’s blåhaj, not blahaj.

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      Ive been called a Tankie multiple times for merely advocating for class conciousness and calling out Capitalist Hypocrisy, I also left Lemmygrad when then deleted a comment i made arguing that voting for the lesser of 2 evils is the best course of action to protect the Prolitariat in the rising wave of transphobia and bigoty in the West. The same way blahaj zone deleted my comment with hundreds of up votes under the “kick Tankies out of 196” post calling them out for being explicitly anti Tankie, while they dont even define what they mean by tankie, which can be used to define any person with communistesc ideologies. Fascism rose to power in Europe 90 years ago on the back of anticommunist rhetoric, and easily took power because Communists were the loudest voices of opposition. Not calling Blahja zone explicitly fascist, merely pointing out how anticommunist rhetoric is a rallying cry for Fascists, BECAUSE IT IS.

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        I really think it is quite unfortunate how much grad/hex tainted communism. I’m not a communist, but I was open to good discussions about it, particularly because I know it’s important to look at the flaws in your own systems.

        Now? I’m scarred. I can’t just assume a post js something posted by someone I could probably agree with after a discussion.

        I assume something similar has happened to other users. It’s unfortunately hard to grant someone the grace of assume they aren’t a tankie when you know they’re out there. I feel your pain and I’m sorry. I also don’t know how any of us can change now.

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          calling them out for being explicitly anti Tankie, while they dont even define what they mean by tankie, which can be used to define any person with communistesc ideologies

          You know damn well that in leftist communities “tankie” does not mean “any person with communist ideology”. You’re being disingenuous and then feigning outrage when nobody takes the bait. You don’t need a dictionary definition to understand the sentiment being expressed, and the attempt to get one is just a distraction where people start quibbling over the exact specifics instead of the overall intent, which is opposition to authoritarians and state simps.

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            I’m very confused as to how this is a reply to my comment when I didn’t write the quoted comment and this does not appear to discuss my comment lol

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              …I am too. What the hell? How did I manage that.

              My b, I clearly hit the wrong ass thing at some point, didn’t mean to yell at you like that.

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          Same, I usually don’t really participate but I love seeing people discuss political opinions objectively and willing to learn.

          But hex\grad people were always “What do you mean [any post] isn’t political??!?! It’s clearly political because [absolutely unreasonable reason]”

          The ragebait/sea lioning was getting too much. Eventually my mailbox was full of those trolls so I just went on a different instance that had both banned and I’m a lot happier. On the downside it’s now closer to an echo chamber but I guess I’ll just browse the memes and random crap then. I can work with that…

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        I really don’t fucking get those people. Yeah, Stalin was awful, but communism isn’t. It seems like they don’t really know what they’re angry at. China? 🤷‍♀️

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        People understand the issues of capitalism but aren’t concerned enough to give up their personal capitalist identities. Same with cars, sure cars are bad but I could never give up my FrEeDoM oF mOvEmEnT until busses go literally everywhere and I never wait more than two minutes!