3rd party ads lead to the roulette wheel of malware injection. M$ can’t even keep the malware links off of their garbage MSN homepage on Edge. This would be an extremely dumb move, and they will do it anyway because it trades off security for money.
To the surprise of absolutely nobody. There’s no way it was going to be free and have no ads.
Edit: By the way, I don’t see many people talking about it but DALL-E 3 was stealthily launched in the new Bing chat update and it’s incredibly impressive. By far the best image generation AI in the market right now, and it probably won’t be free for long.
Do you think that the next step is product placement?
“Draw a rabbit wearing a top hat.”
Produces picture of rabbit, wearing a top hat, sipping a coke.
That would be hilariously evil, but I doubt they’d go that far. They’ll likely just put an ad in-between every prompt if they decide to go full greed.
Why not both? Why would their greed have a limit like that?
I could see this being a very interesting watermark - the free demo is sponsored by Coke, and all images will prominently feature the product. Upgrade to a paid/business/Enterprise account to get images without the product.
Given how many God-awful advertising patents have already been filed, I really can’t see anyone turning down this opportunity. The only reason against it would be a technological limitation- making sure the product isn’t featured alongside negative/toxic content. For instance, Hitler yelling at a bunch of homeless orphans (while holding a Coke)
It won’t be free for long. MS already announced that it will be moving to a paid service shortly.
Wonder if they’ll use the Hulu model of “pay us money and still see ads”…
Hard to say. IIRC DALL-E will be moving to paid when “Designer” comes out of Beta.
I jave had mixed results. I asked it to generate a user interface and it was absolute gibberish.
The best, but still pretty bad at understanding some very basic ideas.
Geez, ads baked into an OS. What a time to be alive.
The ads have been baked in for a while. Every time I turn on my PC, the first thing I see is it trying to get me to buy Game Pass, and when Starfield came out, it was putting pictures from the game on that startup screen. Even after I tried to turn that off, it still showed them.
Yeah windows has been an ad delivery platform since windows 11 came out. It’s why it was a “free” upgrade for so many people
Did you mean to say Windows 10?
Ads have been served in Home edition since 10 was dropped with 1507. And they strip group policy from it to make it harder to change that. Windows Vista to Windows 8.1 were offered free upgrades to Windows 10, based on the version those keys belonged to.
I’m right now testing Windows 11 deployment for work and I hate it. I’ll move to Linux before I move to Windows 11 on my personal devices.
I mean yeah, whenever the specific changes were put in place as you outlined. I don’t use windows enough to know the history, but I appreciate the clarification
No problem. I don’t apply my experiences to others’ lives, or at least I try not to. Thanks for taking along the lines I was trying to convey!
In windows 11 or 10?
Windows 11.
Right? You bought the OS but you still get ads. Even worse, it sends your data to MS servers
Now is a great time to give Linux a shot. I recommend Pop! OS.
Does pop os also have a copilot?
No. However, it also lacks ads.
Double bonus!
You really, really don’t need an AI assistant for regular computer usage. It’s a solution in search of a problem.
There are genuinely good reasons to use GitHub Copilot if you’re a developer, but otherwise, I think they’re way more trouble than they’re worth.
I mean I could see myself giving copilot some prompts when doing office stuff, like styling and formatting.
This should really simplify office usage especially for people who only use it sparingly and then don’t remember every function.
No Linux distro has, as M$ hasn’t made their AIs open source. But there are people working on open source alternatives.
Ok that sounds awesome do you know any open source copilot projects by chance?
Not open source but free; https://codeium.com/
Not open source, paid; https://www.tabnine.com/
FOSS; https://github.com/THUDM/CodeGeeX2/blob/main/README_EN.md
Thx for the suggestions! I’ll check them out
Theres paid ai … like this
https://github.com/KillianLucas/open-interpreter
Give commands to chatgpt in the the terminal. Then it executes it. It can generate files, etc as well. Using python iirc.
Looks really cool! Thanks for the suggestion
No, YOU stay with windows.
Use Linux.
Sigh, one more thing for the list …
“Didn’t you have ads in the 21st century?”
“Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio. And in magazines. And movies. And at ball games and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts and written on the sky. Oh, and in our operating systems. But not in dreams. No siree!”
Microsoft: the beatings will continue until morale improves
Microsoft: We now inject the malware attack vector directly into your OS because it makes us slightly more money.
Like it wouldn’t.
Please, it’s 2023. Corporarions have totally embraced the “you are the product” model. They offer you a service on their infrastructure (“the cloud”) on their terms, which they can modify and terminate on will. Then they make money by selling your data, showing you ads and using your data to personalize those ads so that you are more likely to click on them.
Shame or ethics? Please, it’s money that makes the world go round. Ads in every app! Ads on the web! Ads in every corner of the city! Ads on public transport! More ads! Even more ads! No square centimeter of physical and virtual space left unused!
It’s really pathetic.
Come on over to Linux yall, the
water’sopen-source vibes are fineTruly amazing. Usually you roll out these features, get the userbase involved and intrigued at these new features, get used to them and THEN try and monetize it to capitalize on the sunk cost feeling
I was finally able to get rid of the ads in Windows. I’m sure that it doesn’t block everything, but editing the ‘hosts’ file helps. At least I don’t see any ads in Windows anymore. Here is an simple tutorial that I found on how to do so:
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No, it was included when I bought my laptop.
you did actually pay for it as you can get a refund for windows that comes preinstalled on computers
Where can you do such a thing? Microsoft definitely isn’t doing it, at least in the US. Can’t speak on if the EU mandates such a thing by law.
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Too bad half the shit I do on my computer, Macs aren’t even capable of.
lol. What? Unless your personal computer is actually a backend server for heavy infrastructure, then a Mac can probably do it.
Computers are just tools, and a personal computer running MacOS can do more or less the same as one running Windows. One tool might be better optimized than the other, like gaming on Windows, but that’s about it.
Now, you might strongly prefer one, or not know how accomplish what you want on the other, but that doesn’t mean it can’t do it. It just means you don’t know how.
I have a top end gaming PC with an RTX 4090. Does Mac even install Nvidia drivers? It sure as fuck doesn’t run games!
Yes, there has been native eGPU support since at least MacOS 10.13. That doesn’t mean it’s better at gaming then your Windows desktop, just that it can, which is what I said.
eGPU support! 🤣 Great, you can play iPhone games. Run Cyberpunk 2077 on your “Apple silicon” and let me know how it goes. Get serious, Macs don’t game. I also use a PS5 controller with my PC using DS4 Windows? Does Mac do that?
Jesus Christ you’re a dense dork.
eGPU = External GPU (over Thunderbolt), not embedded GPU or whatever else you imagined.
Maybe you should reread your original comment about “Macs can’t do half the stuff a PC can”, which I was responding to.
I don’t even use a Mac, but I’m not a dipshit fanboy convinced of the supremacy of Windows, or any OS.
You said something dumb, I corrected it. You keep saying dumb shit, but I can’t fix stupid, so I’m out. Peace.
What I said was, “Half of the shit I do on a PC, a Mac isn’t capable of” which is still true. Mac doesn’t even natively run Cyberpunk!
eGPUs aren’t supported on Apple silicon.
Latest supported Nvidia GPUs are from the 10xx series up to macOS 10.13.6. 10.14 and up only support Kepler based GPUs, like GTX 770
Apple will gladly do everything in their power to make developers resent creating things for macs, but they are compensating it by porting Proton to it now.
MacOS would be a complete write-off except thankfully it has some POSIX compatibility and standard Unix tools work on it (with varying degrees of success, but much more success than trying to create Unix environments on Windows)
If it didn’t have that then it’d be as useless as Windows
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It’s helpful to me if others use Windows. I haven’t used it as my primary OS since Vista so my knowledge is out of date, they can go hassle someone else about their Windows issues
Also Mac has been killing it in the user privacy game.
Okay, I thought you were serious, but now you have to be joking
I removed copilot the instant I saw it. I don’t need any more Microsoft online shit built into my OS, thanks. (I also use Arch, but Windows kernel anti-cheat)
I keep telling myself im going to give linux a try at some point, and I should probably get familiar with it as soon as possible
Your instinct is right, because it does take a little bit of time to be familiar enough that it’s automatic, but it doesn’t need to be a big daunting thing - I first dabbled with Linux running in a virtual box. Then I dual booted for a while. Now I’m running just Linux. Dipping your toe in the water is good
Here’s the knife they slip in with a new “free” feature in Windows…
At least with co-pilot for O365, they are charging (a lot of) money for the feature, presumably without ads.
I’m sure it’ll still spy though.
No doubt
