Ahead of a UN Security Council meeting Monday to discuss the recent violation of Estonia’s airspace by three Russian fighter jets, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Poland would shoot down aircraft that clearly violate its airspace

UN Link

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    Always good to keep the skies neat and tidy, I say.

    Somebody must clean the air and shoot down all that " strange flying debris " over European airspace, that is clearly NOT Ruzzian. /s

    edit. neat & tidy

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    Damn, seems like there is a Russian bot trying to divert the Russian attack on NATO countries to something about Epstein.

    Good thing they failed. Just like how Russia will fail to capture the old USSR territories. I’m hoping they will lose even more territories in the end.

    Time for Russia to fracture and the current government to take their own medicine and disappear.

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    I do not say this to criticize these plans, but: I wonder how many drone hobbyists are about to get their shit wrecked. I know civilian and military drones are vastly different, but from a military perspective I guess how spooked would you be/be willing to be before just shooting it down if it looks funny and shouldn’t be there?

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      Check the specs of Shahed drones ( 3.5 m or 11 ft). They don’t look civilian at all.

      Also it’s not only about drones but about boats, submarines and MIG jets.

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          Were there some boat and submarine incursions into Polish airspace I missed?

          Context : Ruzz hybrid warfare and incursions in Europe. The latest ones being drones and fighter jets . See UN sec link for more UN Sec info and other links for other incursions.

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        That’s what I’m saying, even though civilian drones don’t look like military drones, would you trust an enemy force to not utilize civilian drones in some way? At which point it becomes how do you tell them apart when a civilian flies a drone somewhere unexpected, and how much do you care about false positives.

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          If there is any doubt, shoot first then find out who gets mad. I would hazard a guess that a. Drone enthusiasts are smart enough to fly their drones away from the border, and b. Shooting and then paying to replace a drone would be a cheap expenditure for national security.

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          They have and they do. It’s an issue when it’s not clear. Recently Belarusian used civilian drones somewhere , they got arrested

          Just now developing story in Denmark

          edit: clarification

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      This seems like a nuts perspective to me. If a another country was sometimes flying drones through my countries I would not be worried about some hobbyist drones.

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        I literally prefaced it with saying that I wasn’t criticizing the plan. I just know there are stupid people in the world with money, and they tend to have drones. If idly wondering about something is new to anyone then I apologize for the culture shock.

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          yeah I missed it and im sure it was just my lazy mind not taking the start of your comment into account. I get it now.

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      That’s fair though the drones they’re primarily concerned about look more like small planes rather than recreational drones. I’m assuming if any Poles have drones to fly, they’re likely well off enough to head a bit west to avoid them being shot down. And with modern nav/attack chains I’m pretty confident they’ll discern between the two.

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      That is giving Europe way too much credit. One or two countries (mostly Finland) are ready. Most others very much aren’t. In large part because, up until recently, they had a weirdo with the largest standing army on the planet asking to solo russia.

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              it’s so out of pocket i don’t know how to deny it other than say “that’s wild”

              you’ve just accused me of hating “whites” out of nowhere. it’s a weird thing to do and i think you’re weird for doing it and if this conversation keeping going like this i’m gonna block you because this is unproductive to any conversation to deconstruct hate

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                I tag people when I see Bad behavior. Occasionally, I will happen upon that user again and be pretty Shocked. I like to Give people opportunities to deny what they’ve been accused of. In this particular case, they are indeed a racist.

                • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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                  k. your methodology seems flawed as i don’t even know what i’ve said that was racist. i’m open to listening as antiracism is a core value of mine. so maybe work on that for the future

      • floop@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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        Answer tomorrow I’m actually sorry your life is so bad that you think worshiping Nazis is the answer.

        On the other hand, I will enjoy killing you

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          wtf!? what are you talking about? nazis all deserved to be punched, and i argued earlier today that we have to keep the pressure on to release the epstein files. but it’s completely off topic here. poland is not engaging in distracting from the epstein files they’re engaging in defending themselves from the imperial world order that’s been assisting in obfuscating the epstein case. you are literally working against your cause right now

          • floop@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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            Explain to me why a Nazi piece of shit like you should be allowed to live on the planet with the rest of us?

            You are a Nazi. Because of that you’ve deserve to let literally everyone on the planet killing you

            Why are you robbing everyone on the planet and the birthright? They have to murder Nazi? Kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself kill yourself

          • floop@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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            Can’t help, but notice how live you are. Really, for the betterment of everyone on earth,

            Fucking kill yourself. Do it now before anyone else is hurt by the fact that you’re alive and an absolutely unredeemable a little piece of shit. Kill yourself Kill yourself now

            Kill yourself now and post pictures and video of it just so all of us can masturbate to another Nazi suicide

          • floop@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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            Maybe I should send some people that take care of your Nazi worshiping ass?

            But then I wouldn’t get the pleasure of killing you with my own bare hands. You Nazi piece of shit.

          • floop@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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            Really, you need to fucking kill yourself right now. Every second you’re alive hurts the rest of humanity.

            • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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              what the fuck is wrong with you? you accused me out of being a nazi out of fucking nowhere and now you’re telling me to kill myself. what are you doing? go to therapy

              it seems like you’ve just decided i believe something i don’t based on flimsy evidence and a misguided assumption that everyone who gives you feedback on how to coalition build more effectively is a fascist. it’s weird and unproductive to fighting fascism

              • floop@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned
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                You are a Nazi. As such, you deserve nothing but the full force of every human making your life, a fucking nightmare until you kill yourself.

                I will not dedicate myself to your fucking torment, you disgusting Nazi, until I see proof you’ve killed yourself. Even then, I’ll torture your family after that forever having known such a gigantic unforgivable piece of shit is you.

                You need to learn one important lesson: you’re not an anonymous online. I know who and your family are. And these stupid Nazi worshiping garbage you keep pouring out of your mouth has consequences. And everyone you know we’ll pay it. Fuck you, Nazi.