Im having beers at bar ordered wings and tipped $2 everything the bartender brings me.

Beer = $6

tip for beer $2

wings = $20ish

Tip for wings from bartender = $2

Total tips = $4

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Same order from waitress/er = $26

Tip = $5.20

Now I know this is micro example but extrapolate this over several drinks with food and the difference swings the other way. The question remains tho, am I tipping correctly?

  • serpineslair@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You guys sound crazy

    • non-american.

    Couldn’t imagine tipping for EVERY drink, idk how I would keep track. I can barely afford drinks as it is. I once got tipped and I politely declined. It’s the responsibility of the workplace to pay fairly, not other people who are just trying to get by.

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      True but tipping was created generations ago for the wealthy to not have to pay living wages and it’s going to be as hard as taking guns away to get it to change. Remember, all this talk about “fair wages” and “equality” was planted and cultivated for a LONG time with a specific reason to hold down the poor and create different classes. It’s a shitty system getting worse by the day.

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      in australia they serve bottles of water for free. so im not even out there buying drinks. some places have carbonated water for free too.

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    2 months ago

    You’re tipping too much.

    In Michigan we passed a law requiring minimum wage for all tipped workers by 2030(?), and they FLIPPED THEIR SHIT. Said they would lose too much money in tips if they made minimum wage. The republicans rolled it back below minimum (still a small increase), and I’m not sure where it stands right now.

    If tipped workers are going to fight against wage increases so much, then I’m okay reducing their tips.

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      Unpopular opinion, but maybe servers (and most everyone) deserve more than minimum wage. And I’m not saying the consumer should be paying it, they should be paid their money’s worth by their employer.

      Michigan non-tip min wage is what like $10? Who the hell can survive on that?

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        You’re right. Setting them on the same minimum wage and removing their tips WOULD net them less money. However just governing them with a higher minimum wage doesn’t mean that’s exactly what they would earn. If they lost all their tips they would all look for other jobs and the employers would have to start paying more in wages. It was probably the right move, legislatively, though it would cause some short term pain.

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      there is already a federal law about it. Minimum is already minimum for everyone. Tipped positions simply let the employer save some of that money. If you didn’t tip, the employer must pay the full wage.

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      You also have a thing where the minimum wage is far below the actual market rate, the typical wage in the area, and actually making minimum wage is way less than any other job. Nobody wants 7.25 an hour unless you’re forced to.

  • FarraigePlaisteaċ@lemmy.world
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    For anyone who mightn’t know, tipping culture is rooted in slavery and exploitation. It existed in Europe to an extent but really spread its wings - like many awful European things - in the USA.

    I support workers rights, but I don’t tip. The way I see it, if the place requires tips for their staff to get by, then the staff are being financially abused and I would be propping up a system of exploitation. Prioritise places that pay their staff above the minimum wage.

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        Before covid there was a lot of inservice work that you tipped for. During covid it became a lot more digital and the tipping didnt go away so everyone realised its bullshit and stopped tipping. Once tipping culture starts infecting digital transactions you got to stop it before it infects everything.

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      I recommend you stay home. While the american tipping model is very stupid, I would like to remember you why 5-20 percent tip should be normal for serving food and drinks:

      You are all insufferable cunts when you’re drunk.

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    I think 1-2$ per drink is the recommendation because it’s easier to remember than doing the math, and you’re more likely to drop the cash and go rather than interacting with a busy bartender more. That said, if they’re doing full service for you (food, checking in on you), you should probably tip normally, because they’re acting as a server in that case.

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    Really depends.

    Typically, $1 is for a standup bar etc with high volume.

    If I’m sitting at the bar top, getting fed, I’ll tip like I would were I sitting at a table. If I’m just sucking down beers, probably a buck or two a drink and if I’ve been a while, a 5 on top at the end.

    But, I’ve known a lot of people in the industry etc… Also I’ve found that being a good person who tips helps out in the long run, it’s nice getting the occasional free drink, having the server on your side when flirting with folks at the bar etc. Best one was the bartender gave me really high end ski gloves that had been left behind a couple nights prior, the cash equivalent would’ve been huge.

    As they say, it’s nice to be nice.

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    I tip for 15%, everywhere I go where tips are expected. For drinks I tip 15%. It helps that I’m Canadian and almost all places I go they have machines, so it’s just easy.

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    I think it’s insane too. I understand that tipping goes (theoretically) to the waitstaff, but I have a hard time tipping $1 per $4.50 bottle of beer handed to me. If it’s more complex of a drink than x and coke, sure it took their time.

    Tipping table service used to be good amount only not drinks and tax. Now it seems to be on top the final total with 20% being expected.

    • sem
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      You can still tip based on the subtotal before tax

  • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    This discussion around what to tip hides an employment system that values employees to the point of underpayment and poor working conditions.

    Perhaps you should instead frequent establishments where tipping is not expected because the employees are paid a proper wage.

    That way, you don’t have to argue about tipping your bartender too much, or not enough, instead you can focus on drinking a superbly crafted concoction of your choice.

    I’ll also note that tipping is not universal.

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    With tips I generally do 20% across the board so a bartender would get 20% just like a waitress. And it’s always better to have a happy bartender :)

    That said I’m also in the northeast U.S. where everything is expensive so it sort of makes sense that the tips aren’t going to be cheap. Maybe I’d rethink the tipping if I was somewhere else less expensive.

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      The expensive part is big. Inflation on bar and restaurant drinks is real. Drinks where I am are a minimum of 15 usd with 20-25 not being outside the realm of possibility. I started tipping 2 dollars a drink a few years ago at bars. But I’m not getting a dozen drinks, or drinking every day at bars, even every weekend.

      I can see these tips really adding up if you do this a lot, especially restaurants where two people + tip for a couple that gets two drinks each is 120-150 usd all day. Wages aren’t exactly catching up to any of that.

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    I thought bar food is tipped the same as restaurant food.

    Tipping a dollar a drink is standard because

    • It’s easy

    … that’s really it. No thinking, no math, etc. which is important when you’re drinking.

    Also, you too per drink so the bartender knows you tip right from the start.

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    I do 20% for table service by wait staff and 1 dollar per drink at a bar, unless I run a tab over a long session, then I often default back to 20%. Also if the bartender is putting a lot of time and effort into making me fancy cocktails and not just pouring me a draft.