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    i don’t want to watch pewdiepie, can someone explain what’s his beef here

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      Just downloaded it and skimmed by frames… Seems to be a list of reasons to degoogle. Mentions privacy, security, and how Google is extending fingers into everyone’s privacy by browser, password manager, wallet, phone, etc.

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        Guy’s an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.

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          Really didn’t like him when he was younger, he was a naive swedish kid that didn’t realize that the dumb shit he said online had ramifications because his audience was so big. He helped platform Ben Shapiro to a younger generation when he had him on his channel for a video, he had that scandal where he said the n word, and then of course the clip where he says the glass ceiling doesn’t exist. It’s clear to me he didn’t realize the cultural and political ramifications of that stuff in America because he was never really exposed to it growing up in Sweden, and he was a cocky 20 something that thought he knew everything.

          I hope these days he’s realizing how idiotic some of that shit was and is actually trying to use his platform to make his viewers aware of valid issues rather than spouting off about topics he knows nothing about to his viewers who take his word as truth.

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            He also paid some Africans to hold an anti-semitic sign. To prove people will do things for money I think?

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              The entire thesis of that video was “fiver and things like that lead to exploitation of the global poor”, the sign thing was just a catchy clickbait thing.

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              I think his reasoning was to see how far the sign holding folks would go for money, and they apparently didn’t really have any limits. Should he have done and shown it on youtube is the thing he can be criticized for

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                That’s pretty apalling.

                What kind of following sticks with someone who humiliates people just because they could use extra grocery money? Just because he had so much cash that he could take a voyercation to somewhere unfamiliar to do it?

                If he’s come to his senses, fine. Anyway if new users can’t figure out CWs and pronouns… that’s why we have de-fed, block, and filter…

                Maybe someone thought genocide imagery and messaging was a ha ha funny toy. I’m not over it, as someone who deals with hatecrimey stuff on the reg.

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            I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.

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                  I was about to respond with this, you’re still in college in your early 20s. Most of us don’t get a four year degree done in actual four years

                  We got junior devs in their late 20s because they were doing grad school until like 28

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                Valid… but also have to point out he hit big as a celebrity. When you are literally raking in millions of dollars. He was about 21 when he started his channel. and bottom line is, he got views, he got likes, and it turned into real cash. Most of our jobs etc… encourage us to grow up. His job, rewarded him for catering to his base… which of were younger than him.

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                Others have pointed out how people keep growing up in their 20s and 30s. But also as a media personality, you can’t ignore the possibility that he’s playing a character on camera. It could legitimately be he just kept acting like his younger self while recording because that pays the bills

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                and then his allegedly support of nazis.

                The nazi one IMO was pretty BS. Largely it came from him playing a game, and commenting that other people were trolling putting up swastika’s etc…

                Which I’ll admit, he handled the criticism poorly, did mostly the wrong things because he found it more of a joke than a real thing. He rightly noted that one of the critics was JK Rowling, who he fairly pointed out had no business calling anyone such. When Charlottsville happened is when he actually gave what I considered a pretty sincere fair apology where he basically noted, "holy shit I thought I was being accused of something that didn’t exist, I didn’t realize that nazi’s are actually still so prevelant in modern society so I wasn’t taking things seriously.

                Now afterwords him dropping the n bomb on a stream was pretty damn bad, though he apologized and admitted it. Still kind of falls into the fact that he’d been paid for years to join in games with a bunch of edgy teenagers, and at the end of the day if you spend too much time with a group of people, you are going to slip up and talk like them.

                Again not calling him a great guy or anything, but I’d say everything in him strikes me as a kid that never grew up (because his life was basically set up encouraging him not to), didn’t understand the weight of a lot of the things he was around, and made a bunch of childish stupid mistakes.

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            If pewdiepie is one of the most deplorable people in the world you know of. You must live in some kind of alternative universe and in paradise.

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          I’ve never watched him (I hated him when he would just scream at video games) but he seems to be a lot more mature these days. He even posted a video on why you should switch to Linux recently

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          Calling this guy an ass shows that you have no idea who he is. You’re probably the type of person who thinks they’re well informed but exclusively get their info from echo chambers like Lemmy.

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          I disagree. Things seem to get worse when the herds move to them. It’s as if things are good precisely because they aren’t there.

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            bro, open your mind for a minute. Privacy is for everyone. And we need masses wanting privacy otherwise nothing changes.

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              I definitely agree with you, but I remember how Digg & then Reddit both went to shit once the masses started to use them. Same with Facebook.

              I feel like if we all spread out between multiple platforms, none will become big enough for the enshitification to hit them.

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                Aha, I understand what you mean. Maybe that’s kind of why fediverse (federation) makes sense. At least with social networks.

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            I think you’re seeing the wrong causation when it comes to enshittification. FOSS licenses prevent that sort of thing from happening. Linux is already, by far and away, the most popular server OS so consumers moving to it isn’t going to make it worse.

            I dunno, maybe be less of a hipster bestie?

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          How are you going to do that advertising using one of their products? He has 100M followers and he’s a multi millionare, he should close his youtube account and move in another platform

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            Good point. People should only advocate for dgoogling on platforms full of people who have already degoogled. It’s stupid to try and reach people still using Youtube.

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      He switched to linux a while back. Now he’s trying to switch as much of the rest of his digital life to FOSS/non-profit stuff. He advocates for duckduckgo, firefox, paid email, graphene os, selfhosted vaultwarden, nextcloud, anything but google maps, kodi, etc.

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      Just throwing this out there, you can open the video and expand the description and there is a button you can click on to view the transcript of the video and then you can just copy that out into a text editor or read it right there

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        He got backlash from his own fans from all edgy and toxic jokes. I remember some of his Indian fans are angry for his PewDiePie vs T-series stuff (T-series: Indian music company).

        I think around 2019, he apologized and recognized all the edginess he did, and promised to do better.

        For the last five years, all of his content are basically wholesome family stuff or creative activities. Even his recent art journey video are widely shared among young art communities that’s not even his fans.

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        I really don’t get how so many people here are so happy that a Nazi is using Linux and doesn’t like Google anymore. That’s not the kind of clown I’d want representing or being a spokesperson for my interests and it’s really making me second guess the people here.

        Edit: @nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 's comment has provided info I didn’t have, and recontextualizes the attitudes here I wasn’t understanding, so now I get why there’s support for this.

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            Might wanna take your own advice. For example, instead of making a drive by shit post, you could have done what another commenter did and actually explain why people are on board with this guy. That person’s comment had me reconsider my position. Your comment just makes you look like an ass.

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        Yeah this is why it’s so offputting seeing so much praise for him here. I don’t believe he’s ever outright apologized and owned up to what he’s said and done in the past (I could be wrong though?). Last I checked the dude was literally a neo nazi.

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          My wife was a PewDiePie fan from before the slur incident so I’ve loosely seen some of his content over the years. He’s apologized multiple times, and he’s shifted his style significantly multiple times since then.

          Basically in the last few years he’s grown up a ton. He married his girlfriend of a decade or more after earlier refusing marriage, had a baby, emigrated to Japan and now posts tons of creative and day-in-the-life style vlogs

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            Didn’t he stream a dead body in a Japanese suicide forest shortly after moving to Japan?

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              That was Logan Paul, and actually the Paul brothers’ antics actually greatly delayed Pewd’s immigration as the Japanese government actually stopped granting new visas to any social media personalitiws for some time after the Paul incidents.

              If I remember correctly he wasn’t able to immigrate until mid-2020 thanks to the Paul Borthers’ lack of respect for anyone

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          he has. people just prefer to go on judging. how you supposed to feel good about yourself if the people you hate for hating stopped hating?

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      Same, it feels surreal.

      I was typing out in the comments that he should try nextcloud before I finished the video, and towards the end I saw that he was running Nextcloud. Fantastic

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      started with minecraft & redstone, now linux & degoogling, can we extrapolate that in some years pewd’s gonna start hrt lol

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      There’s no redemption arc because he literally never did anything wrong. His content was always family friendly

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      Imagine if some big influencers like him switched to peertube, that would be quiet a thing indeed.

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          I can kinda see it, though he’s not my cup of tea. I like my videos a bit more essay-like and a bit more serious mode.

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          i get it, and don’t mind seeing him these days, but I don’t seek him out.

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            Same here. There were times where my eyes went up just hearing mentions of the guy, but nowadays, there are some videos I kinda enjoy watching (rare but yea)

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        Even just mirroring.

        Is there a tool already that makes it easy to upload to both? Idk, I haven’t uploaded a video since like the 10s

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        Any influencer that relies on YouTube ad money won’t make the full jump.

        Other than that, they’ll very quickly find out that keeping a video focused service running and serving 10k views daily (300k/mon) is very expensive both in storage and bandwidth.

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          actually for big youtubers, ad revenue from google isn’t all that huge afaik. i’m going only on the LMG breakdown they did, but they only get 26% of their revenue from adsense… that’s no tiny share of course, but i wouldn’t call it completely catastrophic to loose

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            you would have to factor in the amount of traffic that exposure from youtube gets them for those other monetary functions to get a real sense of how valuable it is to be or not be on that platform. Definitely feel like ethics should always come into play though and a lot of creators are branching out with hosting themselves or patreon/etc.

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            You can look any youtuber up on socialblade and see their earnings range. It’s not small which goes to show his diversified stuff must make a shitload.

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          They don’t make a large share of their income from yt ads I believe. Most is from sponsorships etc

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          The big youtubers rely on sponsorship money way more than ad money. But sponsorship money is dependent on viewership numbers, so that is the main issue

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        I think they are the only people able to do something like that. Hosting videos is expensive as … you know. But if someone can do it, its them.

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        How about LBRY? Do you think it’s a sane alternative to YT? I also think peertube is the true freedom, though, I was surprised how quick videos load on odysee

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          LBRY is cool but I’m honestly sketched out by the creators that currently exist there. It’s mostly weird libertarians and crypto bros plus random porn bots. Also between the first and most recent times I played with it they added a CDN that hosts all of the files and something like 99% of the data I downloaded while farting around on there came from that single official CDN, so very decentralized.

          Peertube has actual large creators who aren’t weird conservative podcasters, and tons of different servers already which serve content, and great Mastadon integration which puts it in a much better spot for growth moving forwards than LBRY. You can literally watch peertube videos from Mastadon (Which has millions of active users including some celebrities and government officials) and comment on them from Mastadon, so there’s kinda already a userbase measured in millions depending on how you classify cross-fediverse users

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            mostly weird libertarians and crypto bros plus random porn bots

            Maybe yeah. In fact, the only video I’ve ever watched on LBRY is from a YouTuber named Mental Outlaw

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          I though (not sure if I remember correctly) LBRY is basically dead after the lawsuits. The network was overtaken and is basically another corpo shait…

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      Can we stop with the narrative that corporations and celebrities are doing good? This guy is 110 Million people away from doing something for privacy and linux, once he makes 110 million and one person switch to linux or using a youtube alternative he will have done some work in the positive.

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        I mean… glass half full or half empty… You can appreciate how enthusiastic he was about it and how many people saw the video, or you can just complain… Btw. if he should do more, it will be the positive feedback he gets about it, not the negative one which is just demotivating…

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    Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.

    I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.

    There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.

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      Despite the lack of content we should mention peertube any time possible to increase knowledge of it, if nothing else

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      Your own domain, but you’re safer not hosting your own email servers in general. Just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this. If your mail server is down you don’t get mail 🫠

      I ended up using a service that isn’t Google for that with my own domain

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        And soft lock yourself… log in to the DNS portal you need 2FA from your email… while your email is having DNS issues lol

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      Your own domain for email hosting is a massive pain in the ass. Have you not run into a million problems with other hosting providers refusing you for possibly spam?

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        Self hosting an email server is a pain in the ass and I don’t really recommend it.

        Buying your own domain and using it in whatever email provider you want is very easy and gives you ownership over the email address. You may switch providers freely without needing anyone else to do anything.

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          I wasn’t self hosting. I was just talking about your own domain, which caused me serious problems when flagged for spam.

          Edit: I’m guessing it’s easier nowadays but I still carry that pain lol

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            That’s not an issue with a custom domain name, but one of the other parts you run into, SPF and DKIM dns settings being correct and the reputation of whatever SMTP server’s ip address is. No one spam-bins based just on random domain names, or every business would freak out. You can also use your own domain on Google, Microsoft, or Apples ecosystems, not that you need to, there are plenty of providers that will host your email. I like runbox.

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              Oh shit is that what the issue was??? Thank you for explaining! I thought it was literally blacklisted like that. I told those worthless dumbfucks to whitelist my domain and that shit just kept happening—and they made me do all the work every time. It was exhausting and frustrating. I’ll look into runbox, thanks again.

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                I wonder if there might be some super common spam tlds like .xyz or .ru or something, but generally, yeah, custom domain isn’t the issue. Some other options are Migadu, mailbox.org, mxroute, and Tuta all seem like decent companies. A lot of others “also do” email hosting, like porkbun and OVH. Plenty of companies host their email with all these companies and have mostly clear sailing without being spam binned.

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        Didn’t try to host a domain myself yet, but having it set up with Proton has given me zero problems thus far.

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        No, not I don’t self host my email which is where a lot of the trouble comes from

        I don’t remember having any issues with it ever. That was a concern so I did slowly transition to the custom domain

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          I stopped doing it because I kept getting rejections from Microsoft from my property manager and some other important stuff. Drove me nuts.

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        Wish more creators would move to Nebula. I joined on Grady from Practical Engineering’s recommendation. His stuff is great.

        I haven’t quite figured out how to use PeerTube yet.

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        Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.

        Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.

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          Gotta also recommended porkbun for a registrar, had a great experience with then.

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            Porkbun + runbox here. Domain and email together cost less than $30 a year. You can use the domain for free with GitHub pages or cloudflare for a free website too.

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              I personally picked Mailfence, but I saw both runbox and mailfence are really good. Tho Mailfence is a bit more expensive

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          That’s pretty much my setup, it is not super hard to get working, it’s basically just copying and pasting the magic numbers they give you

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        Get something on .com or .net. Vanity tlds will piss off reputation services. And make sure you set up spf/dkim

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          Other reason is the renew fees for special tlds are so unpredictable. Com is surprisingly cheap to renew.

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      set up your own domain for email hosting

      cannot recommend this enough!

      1. register your domain through something like porkbun
      2. get an account with someone like mxroute.com (i am a fan, but not an affiliate or anything)
      3. enjoy pain-free email for the rest of your life
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    I think it’s ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.

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        I’m running lineage os on a Motorola moto g7 power (2019) Android 15 runs fine on a 6 year old phone.

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      Thise are just different flavors. I need a pixel 8 pro xl equivalent device that runs linux natively. All thw postmarket phones are ancientx

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      Same reason it continually sucks to get a working Linux build on an apple laptop or desktop.

      As bad as Google is, they’re lightyears ahead of Apple in terms of protecting their products in a walled garden.

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          I’ve never investigated for iPhones but would be curious

          1. if they exist
          2. how bloody hard they are to get going

          I can only speak for laptops/desktops and it being a bitch.

          There’s a reason I’m very adamant at hating Apple for a multitude of technical reasons. This is but one of them. It’s a shame too because their build quality is really S-Tier.

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        “work” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here when talking about a Fairphone. Worst phone I ever owned with quite some margin.

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      I would get a Nokia flip phone but they cost a bit. Cheaper to get something someone is throwing out

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        For Pewdiepie this makes a lot of sense, he was literally the top youtuber. But uploading also somewhere else (no exclusivity required) needs to become mainstream yesterday. We have technical colleges far from the US posting educational video content for a website embed on youtube only, it’s madness 😅

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          Where would be a general purpose place to use as the second platform? Something that’s easy to use (and ofc not even more immoral than youtube, so not rumble or things like that).

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              Fair enough, but I was saying in the “this should become common practice” sense. I don’t think anyone can just post there since it’s owned by the creators, so you have to join them, it’s a package deal.

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            Peertube would be my choice, thanks to p2p one won’t burden an instance if a video gets too popular. Just found a nice interface to find a good instance as a videomaker depending on topic, requirements, etc: https://joinpeertube.org/instances?profile=video-maker

            As with the rest of the fediverse, autonomous institutions like universities should ideally have their own instance or join a collective. Embeds get the same p2p benefits and they seem super easy to implement

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              I always thought it was a federated kind of platform. Not really p2p. Why do you need an instance if its p2p?

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                It’s p2p between the watchers, but files are hosted on a server (an instance of Peertube). With just one person watching a video there’s no p2p, only server-client.

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      “I’m done with capitalism” he writes on a phone paid for with 😧 MONEY 👻

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        and trying to get on the grift train of hating google. seems like hes some what desperate to comeback to yt, trying to recapture old glory days, of course all that sweet money comes with it.

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          What exactly is the grift of suggesting Foss over Google? You think he’s getting kickbacks? And if you just mean the “grift” of getting paid for YouTube videos… I mean, if people are watching it and it’s good information is that really a “grift”, seems like just getting paid for giving good information. Better than the majority of YouTube.

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      It will stay up. Do you know how many YouTube videos there are badmouthing Google? They don’t care so long as you’re watching them.

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        All I know is they took down the ones by LTT and Jeff Geerling, I can only assume it was due to the larger audience those two attracted. Now imagine PewDiePie…

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          Linus did 3 videos on “how to degoogle your life” and only 1 was taken down. That one told people how to circumvent YouTube’s platform and monetary system which violated the community guidelines.

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      I don’t care about his content, but I downloaded for historical preservation. If you’re willing to watch can you explain the beef?

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        I just use down sub to pull the transcript from his video It’s only 60% as annoying.

        He has the normal privacy versus cost worries which are reasonably valid. Then he rambles on, plugs a product that he’s shilling that’s unrelated to the subject matter, says he’s replacing Google search with a local LLM, does some hot takes on alternatives, does some reasonable takes on some alternatives.

        To be honest, this is probably the least helpful de-googling video I’ve seen, other than the fact that he’s a major influencer and is telling everyone they should be doing it.

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          this is probably the least helpful de-googling video

          I don’t think it was supposed to be particularly helpful. It’s more of him sharing his passion with his audience. Which isn’t going to be interesting if you don’t care about him.

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            Entirely fair, I generally can’t stand him, hence just reading his caption data :)

            He hit the mark on a few things but his hot takes were pretty hot.

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      If it stays up, it’s certainly going to be interesting seeing the difference in view counts between it and his other videos.

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    I love this new arc of pewds, unimaginably based. I’m actually interested in watching his videos now after a looong time. The last three tech related ones were great.

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        Sure, but other platforms do exist, and he could post to those as well as YouTube. Other creators do, such as Gardiner Bryant to PeerTube and Louis Rossmann to Odyssee.

        If he really hated Google, wouldn’t he be motivated to invest his time into its competitors? Maybe he does, idk, I didn’t watch the video because I’m not a fan of his style and I generally try to avoid YouTube.

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        Sure, but other platforms do exist, and he could post to those as well as YouTube. Other creators do, such as Gardiner Bryant to PeerTube and Louis Rossmann to Odyssee.

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            People keep saying they want an alternative to YouTube, but then reject every alternative that exists.

            Odyssee and other YouTube alternatives tend to host far right content because that content was banned on YouTube, so those creators flocked to the alternative platforms. The sites themselves aren’t exactly encouraging that content, it’s just where people end up due to the loose rules. The best way to fight extremism on an alternative platform is to post less extreme content and drown out the less desirable content.

            That’s basically what happened here on Lemmy. At the start, it was mostly tankies and far left extremists, and gradually it became more mainstream as more mainstream leftists ditched Reddit and joined Lemmy.

            If you want an alternative to YouTube to succeed, you need to use alternative platforms that already exist.

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              In the case of Odyssee it was founded by a far right extremest. It also isn’t decentralized at all so you can’t easily stand up a different instance.

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                I assume you’re talking about Kauffman, who is the founder of LBRY, but that relationship ended when LBRY lost a lawsuit and Odysee was acquired. It is decentralized, using arweave for video hosting and a blockchain for video metadata.

                The main issue w/ Odysee is its near complete lack of moderation, which allows extremists, conspiracy theorists, and other undesirables to earn money. This is because Odysee gives creators the power to moderate their channels, unlike YouTube where most of that is reserved for the platform itself. Odysee is about as free-speech as you get, and that unfortunately allows less desirable content.

                My understanding is that Odysee is essentially what you get if you have P2P (not federated) PeerTube w/ a profit motive.

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    That’s very cool indeed – although I dread the moment he starts talking to his followers about Lemmy.

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      It would be a larger influx of bullshit than even Reddit was able to pull off.

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        I mean, I don’t know of him now… he’s way older and, seems significantly less immature than he was in the past, it’s possible a good portion of his fanbase has also grown to be more tolerable.

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            I think you are massively overestimating how many of his fans would go anywhere, and how long they tag along. I used to play a social deduction game town of Salem, can’t say I know exactly how large the playerbase was… but I’d estimate it on the lower side, probably significantly under 50k. There were a few times Pewdiepie did a video on the game, and yeah, he was a pain in the ass, because he didn’t try to learn the game, so his video was basically him trolling around in the game screaming random stuff, completely ruining things for people who wanted to play the game, and players could basically count on a few days afterwards of, having games ruined by his fans doing the same crap of course. However it certainly wasn’t millions of them, within a few days the game mostly went back to normal… with if anything a slight boost to the number of players, because a handful stuck around and actually learned the game.

            and again this is with much longer ago pewdiepie… way younger fanbase, way larger more active following. Today’s pewdiepie, that’s still following, and I guess bothering to pay attention to his videos on rigging up gadgets with raspberry pi’s, and installing archlinux with hyprland, and apparently this one on getting off google. I’d imagine… the amount of people following him are going to be waay smaller than that, he hasn’t been doing gaming videos in at least a year, seems to be more of basic tech comentary and general lifestyle location things.

            So in short, if he did a lemmy push, first off I’d imagine actually the blip from it being very small. Unless steam charts suddenly show 100 million new archlinux users or something, I can guess his influence today is probably pretty small, and second the type of people he’d attract are probably also drastically different than the edgy teen base we remember him for, and lastly even at his peak of popularity and immaturity, the influx wasn’t quite as big as you are thinking it is.

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      That would literally be the best this to happen to this god forsaken platform. There isn’t nearly enough users, diversity of content, or sheer volume to make this place a genuine alternative to Reddit. Getting an influx from a huge youtuber like him means this place might finally get active communities for mainstream hobbies like sports, music, and videogames.

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    I’m sceptical of his steamdeck hosting solution :p hope he has backup for his files too