This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
The war of the attention whores has begun…
I kept seeing people saying that this is all performative and that they’re both in on it, but idk, I was raised by narcissists and this is basically the exact same fight playing out on the global stage that played out weekly in my childhood living room.
Yep, same, exactly.
This is way, way too in depth to be an elaborately staged, intetional hyperreality performance.
These two just actually are this stupid, this self-centered, this insecure and ego driven.
If this is some kind of an act, it would require both of them to have been method acting at Daniel Day Lewis levels for about a decade with no breaks.
Its ‘performative’ in the sense of intentionally being catty, shit-disturbing, dramatic, old men acting like the cast of the Mean Girls… but it is not performative in the sense of ‘entirely staged to fool us dumb rubes.’
That being said, this all still does function as a grand distraction to any other person or kind of nefarious nonsense… but no, these two are having the messiest, most high stakes, most public breakup in probably the history of the world right now, and they are both totally genuine.
… It is also arguably the funniest way concievable for the American Empire / Era to end.
How in the fuck do you write a history book about this in 20 years?
… I don’t fucking know, but I do know I want Larry David to write a script for a ‘The Death of Stalin’ style movie about the last 9 months.
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
I think this might be lethal levels of irony even for him.
Even if it was pretend to start with they’re both so sensitive and need to be right, it’ll turn into a real fight soon enough. But I agree, neither is clever enough to pretend this. For that you need professional wrestling level acting skills.
Neither one of them is able to pretend at this level. It is a real fight.
Alien vs. Predator.
Whoever loses, we win.
Nah, we are still stuck with whoever wins.
So what you’re saying is we need to revive the push for President Schwarzenegger
“Get in the (Air Force Two) Choppa!”
One Big, Beautiful Breakup.
Oh I bet he’ll pay in some way to have trump challenged for being mentally unfit, I think that’s part of the constitution
Sadly enough, this won’t escalate into anything because Musk didn’t exactly have a lot of friends in the GOP even when Trump’s head was crammed shoulder-deep in his ass. He was only tolerated because the GOP had no other real choice, and they didn’t want to risk him funding a primary challenger. He has lots of money but no actual political clout. Which means I doubt there’s going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
He’ll probably go the Liz Cheney route of just being ostracized by everybody. But hey, it’ll be a hell of a lot of fun watching all this shit in the meantime.
I don’t know. He’s got tons of money and politicians are like flies to shit with money.
They’ll go where the voters go. If public sentiment among the MAGA base stays with Trump, so will they. And Musk isn’t popular enough among the MAGA base (outside of being a rich useful idiot) to significantly shake Trump’s hold.
His money is tied up in his companies, which are crashing. Tesla stock is dropping steadily, and the only reason it was making any money at all was because of EV credits, which go away in the Big Beautiful Bill. That’s why he hates it so much. It dooms Tesla, which will be bankrupt within two years.
Now he’s threatening to decommission the only American spacecraft that goes to the Space Station. That gives the government the excuse to cancel all contracts for Space X, or even confiscate it.
Kill Tesla and nationalize Space X, and he’s got nothing left.
Donald Frump controls the military, Melon Husk does not.
In what world is the president going to illegally use the military to kill a billionaire?
They have the CIA for that.
He has the KGB for that as well!
The KGB has Trump. Maybe has Musk too.
Now might be a good time for Putin to off both of them. Maximum chaos effect.
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He already announced he’s done donating to the gop after he burned all that money in wisconsins Supreme Court race.
Because he’s a man known for never going back on his word before…
Which means I doubt there’s going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
GOP grifters avoiding the biggest pile of money to grift, and you’re confident grifters will actively avoid it? I’m not so sure. I’m betting a number of opportunistic GOP will sign up on the Musk train if it means getting a paycheck/personal superpac donation.
Of course it’s far too early to tell how this is all going to shake out, but a number of articles are reporting that House Republicans are almost entirely on Trump’s side and lashing out at Musk. While there may be a few grifters from super-safe districts that may speak out, Trump is still the face of the party and his influence goes well beyond money; some of these people may stay on Trump’s side out of fear of retaliation, especially if sentiment among the rank-and-file MAGA base sticks largely with Trump.
I feel like if he wanted to he could out right buy half the GOP congress people though. Money holds a lot of political power when the politicians are for sale.
He could buy all of them, politicians are particularly cheap. $10K each could buy the entire Congress. That’s nothing to Musk.
I bet Thiel wants it too. Get his personalityless puppet into power quicker.
Anybody have any idea what they’re trying to hide with this puppet show? Is the big bill getting too much attention or is it something else?
I think you’re giving them too much credit. I’m pretty sure this really is just a senile old man feuding with a ketamine addict.
It can and likely is both.
I don’t really see how. Trump could be playing it up a little to distract from the Medicare cuts, but I imagine he’s genuinely pissed about the Epstien thing. That probably played really badly with his base. There’s also no way Musk is doing this as a distraction; Telsa’s stock is imploding because of this.
I think its a senile russian asset fighting a ketamine addict and both of their handlers are simply making good use of the natural distraction.
While I don’t necessarily want to believe there’s anything decent in any of his supporters, I also really don’t feel like he’d lose a single one being a proven pedophile. They’re all in.
There was news today that the Senate is considering cutting Medicare in addition to Medicaid, as well as news of major changes to how science funding is sent out to researchers. Also the travel bans for foreign nationals from certain countries.
I highly doubt it’s anything. They’re selfish egotistical people out for their own gains. Elon never cared for Trump or the Republicans, just about what made him the most money. Now he’s buthurt and lashing out.
So let me get that straight, you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get a guy, who you think should be impeached and is guilty of underage sex, to be the president of the United States?
He KNEW about the underage sex stuff when he spent the nearly 300 billion dollars too.
I have this feeling that JD Vance is way worse than Trump
He is much worse, but he’s also far less of a threat, as he doesn’t have ANY public mandate, in the form of any kind of following or cultish fandom.
Trump’s power is almost ENTIRELY a product of how he tapped into the country’s stupid fucking redneck hogs and narcissists and delusional conspiracy nuts. JD has exactly ZERO flat-earthers driving around with his face painted on the side of their van. Having a following of millions of people, even if they are mentally-deficient to a degree that is literally breathtaking, is still power, a great deal of power too because he has them under such tight control.
Vance might be dangerous in short-term policy decisions, but he doesn’t have electoral power, he doesn’t have chips in the game, he won’t make a dent in senate/house bill votes, he won’t have influence on local and state elections. He’s pre-neutered. The only ones who should be worried about Vance are the white-house sofas.
Vance is absolutely worse. He’s the true disciple of Curtis Yarvin, and that’s the end of the country as we know it.
Yes, I said he’s worse. First line, first paragraph.
Do you understand political power though? It’s a deep game but even at the highest levels, you can see that just being “bad” or “good” isn’t enough to shape policy and leadership. A president has a job to do, and that job is almost entirely negotiating political favors between various groups and committees and lobbyists. To be able to do this, you have to have both a shrewd understanding of political law and precedent, AND you need political capital.
Donald Trump has very little understanding of political law and precedent, but he has MASSIVE political capital.
Vance has none. Just like Stephen Miller, someone who is also literally a sack of insects in human skin, someone like him even being as close to the president as he is, he has no political capital. He would never get elevated to an electoral position so he had to worm his way to an advisor status.
They could do some harm, but all their attempts at passing policy without political capital will get shot down in the other branches of government. There are a lot of examples of this in history, even recently with presidents who had waning capital like Biden. If you aren’t actively gaming the game, you’re getting left behind.
You seem to be ignoring the entire class that owns them. Peter Thiel, Marc Andreeson, etc. can “create” political capital through manufacturing it. That’s how Vance even got elected to Senate in the first place.
He doesn’t resonate as strongly with the MAGA base as Trump of course, but since when did the will of the people matter, especially now that there are loyalists in every notable and important position in the whole of the executive (all agencies), legislative, and judicial branch.
We’re still talking about different things. It’s okay, we can agree that we don’t want any of these people in power but I’m saying Vance doesn’t have the political currency to have as strong of an impact as even Trump, nothing to do with “the will of the people.”
I feel like you could have said the same thing about Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela…
While I do believe America is spiraling towards autocracy and dictatorship, it won’t be Vance’s face on the armbands. It will be someone but the way America falls into that hole will be a different path than Venezuela took, mostly because our government is so much larger and more complicated with far more international interests at play, requiring more long-term political capital to be spent to bend the system until it breaks.
Yes, but he won’t be backed up by maga. There will be more internal fighting.
OKey at least there is that. I just want somebody in the US office who will fix the political system to be more compromise based, but I think I’ll sooner see a unicorn irl.
Vance is totally owned by Peter Theil, who is a well-known Psychopathic Oligarch.
Yeah, unfortunately, there’s no one in the line of succession I particularly like. At least RFK is #12 and Linda McMahon is #16, both pretty far down.
He might be, but that’s a chance I’m willing to take given how fucking terrible Trump is.
That’s because he’s dumb enough to follow the dumb guy. We all know he’s a fuckin moron.
Is this a massive gamble by Elmo to rebuild his brand image by forcing me to agree with him on certain issues? Let’s not forget this was the same guy Nazi saluting this dude at his Inauguration a few short months ago.
No, its not. Musk is just salty Trump used and discarded him. You have to understand, these are just children who stumbled into power and never really grew up.
Yeah - nepo babies are like this. Made the mistake of marrying one, and any perceived slight needed punishment and retaliation.
I’m not forgetting anything. I’m just enjoying two enemies fight it out.
Can we have both of these? Please please please?
- Trump impeached
- Musk deported
I know there is some clause or stipulation that allows for the seizure of assets obtained by illegal immigrants.
Musk is an illegal immigrant who pursued business ventures in violation of his school visa and lied about it.
now we are talking
If we’re dreaming of fantasies that will never happen, I also want nationwide ranked-choice voting, and maybe we can overturn Citizens United Vs Federal Elections and stop allowing corporations to literally run our country.
Consider this, JD Vance is Peter Thiel’s Acolyte, who desperately wants to bring about a global technocracy. What if all of this hasn’t been a genuine attempt yet. What if it’s merely theatre that has been setting the stage for Vance to take over. Trump gets to enrich his family beyond their wildest imagination, then he peaces out and the real horror begins.
On the other hand, Vance is a loathsome piece of shit who even the MAGAts don’t like much.
This is like hearing the school saying the two biggest bullies are going to fight in the yard after school
Everyone knows that one of them can’t hit any thing harder than a pillow and the other always chickens out against any opponent unless the person they’ll punch is held down by four guys.
The entire school knows that this shit show is a circus that will just be full of drama and no fighting … but we’re all going to head out onto the yard anyway to laugh at how stupid these idiots are going perform.
I’ll see you all on the yard after the last bell at 3pm
Who could see this coming said that one clueless guy who didn’t.
I was waiting for those two to fall out. Two egos this big were always going to clash sooner or later. This will be entertaining and hopefully damaging to both of them.
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There’s some major schadenfreude in this, but never forget all of the damage that DOGE did to the government & countless numbers of its loyal employees.
