• relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works
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    Does Trump have to be present for the whole thing? My adhd is getting triggered just thinking about sitting still for a 4 month trial. Good luck orange dude 😂

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      Fuck what Trump has to do. Feel bad for the 14 ish jurors who have to sit there for 4 months getting paid less than minimum wage. I’d say it’s likely they get sequestered at some point, meaning they don’t even see their families.

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        Those jurors are definitely going to need to be sequestered and will probably need protection too. The GOP is already openly supporting domestic terrorism so I don’t expect them to stop now.

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        I would love to be one of the jurors. 4 months is way better than 4 more years of Trump.

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        Being jurors on this case would suck. That being said, not shitty employers often pay your full salary for jury duty. And some states require employers to pay too.

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        It would suck. But also, you would be a part of history forever.

        Some people go overseas and risk their lives in the military and lose family time as well without having as much of an impact on the world. Here, the potential to have a positive impact on society is also profound. To show that all people are equal under the law.

        So, yes, it would suck. But it’s still worth it as a society to require people to do this and as a juror it’s better than the equivalent trial that nobody hears about for commercial fraud that takes the same amount of time.

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      Does Trump have to be present for the whole thing?

      That depends on whether the judge orders an appearance. The lawyers for Trump must be present the whole time, but Trump does not necessarily have to be there unless ordered to by the judge.

      My adhd is getting triggered just thinking about sitting still for a 4 month trial.

      It seriously sounds awful… couldn’t happen to a better person.

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    If you look at all the crimes the 18 defendants are charged with, I’d say that 150 is actually pretty freaking economical! If math is right, that’s like 4.92 indictments per witness.

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    I don’t even see how a jury would follow something like that. It’s a college course in the way of information overload.

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      There’s too much search engine garbage to find an original source, but PhDs, scientists, physicians, and attorneys (of course) are basically disqualified from jury duty.

      Funny how demonstrating that you’re able to think for yourself with a degree disqualifies you.

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        I’m a nurse and was on a murder jury trial with a sheriff deputy. They’re not allowed to ask your profession in voir dire. What you cannot do is provide expert testimony as a juror in deliberation. You are, of course, expected to use your experiences in your decision.

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          They don’t ask your profession.

          They ask things like your highest level of education or “if you use math at work”.

          That last one got one of my colleagues immediately dismissed.

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            They don’t want someone to start adding context or outside information during the jury deliberation. If you do, then the defense has no opportunity to argue against you.

            They don’t want any additional discussion that could sway the case unfairly one way or the other.

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              That is my understanding as well.

              But that’s “lawyers vs justice”.

              The jury is supposed to think for itself.

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                No, you are supposed to be able to put up a defense.

                Who’s to say the jury is correct? What if the specialist made an assumption that was wrong, shared it with the jury, and found a person guilty because they trusted this expert. Now you have no way of challenging this, and rebutting the assumption.

                You DON’T want those “independent thinker” jurors you need them to only consider what’s been presented in the case. It’s the only way it can be fair.

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                  Yeah. That’s why I’m disqualified from jury duty.

                  Everything you have just said (except for being able to put up a defense) insults me and my understanding of justice.

                  I don’t want the people who may eventually try me to behave like you’re saying.

                  That’s lawyers vs justice.

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        I’ve got two jury duty summons so far and haven’t even made it to any form of interview. It may be due to my age at the times, but my job pays me for jury duty so I’ll gladly do my duty.

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      If Trump and his team could dream it up in far less than a month, mere mortals will be able to follow it. It’s not really all that complex. Just f*** over the election counting process in a variety of ways.

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        Well, he was literally begging for more indictments during a rally a few weeks ago, so maybe he needs to pad those numbers a bit more.