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I never understood why the producers put Troi, Seven of Nine and T’Pol into those stupid catsuits in the first place. All of them looked so much more sexy whenever they wore the standard Starfleet uniform.
Thankfully Jellico fixed that at least for Troi.
Absolutely way better here. Said it for years Starfleet uniforms > catsuit bullshit. That has to be a specific fetish of a Paramount exec, Rick Berman probably.
Jadzia managed to dodge that bullet somehow.
It’s because he got to make it the Bajoran uniform for Kira
Jadzia managed to dodge that bullet somehow.
She was instead forced to wear the sort of padding made for people who have had a mastectomy.
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I am seriously in the minority but I got a huge kick out of Pulaski and thought she was the best characterized character on the show.
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I respect your view on her character, and I understand it.
JFC, I hope that the next incarnation of Trek has writers and producers that aren’t so sexist.
I say this as a dude who’s sexual awakening was a combination of Stevie Nicks, Deanna Troi (as I knew her then), and Ryan Reynolds. JUST LET PEOPLE BE WHO THEY ARE. I don’t know of any military institution (and let’s be honest, that’s what Starfleet is) that specifically dresses one officer different from another based on gender, and I can’t figure out why the concept would transpose itself into a show based on being progressive. The only example I can think of is the Salvation Army, which has all the dress code qualities of your average preppy high school 30 years ago. But don’t get me started on that racket…
Like SNW or DISCO?
I really loved Pulaski. It’s hard for me to imagine other reasons besides Crusher is hot that she made it back. She has no character.
She was unpopular because she was mean to Data right after Measure Of A Man. I know she turned around some near the end but tbh I had a bad impression of her because of that.
She wasn’t mean to data she was skeptical about his nature. I consider her relationship with data one of the best things on the show, and episodes like the one where Riker commanded the other ship in a war games exercise showed her to be fond of data regardless of her position on his sentience. It would have been amazing to see her mind changed over the course of seasons.
Even in the episode you mention though, she fails to respect his personal agency in what felt like a really gross way.
How so?
She challenges the strategy master to a game of Strategema, for Data, after Data has made it clear he’s not interested
She was meant to be a foil against Data, but came off as hating him.
I think it’s because Brent Spiner was so damn charismatic as Data.
Despite her skepticism she should’ve treated him like a sentient being, since there was a clear chance she could be wrong.
Berman and friends thought troi was too fat looking in the standard uniform 😠 we were robbed of 5 or 6 seasons of a lady in uniform 😅
WOW, did not know that. That’s a yikes from me, bro
Big fucking yikes from me too.
Troi was put in the catsuit from day one, to capture the teenage boy market (and most of the rest of the male market). They put her on a uniform at the height of Star Trek popularity.
Seven came in at season 4 of Voyager with the extremely tight catsuit. This is the third series of the 90s era plus a couple of movies, so franchise fatigue started to set in. They needed a way to boost ratings, and they already knew of one surefire way.
With Enterprise, they didn’t even try to hide it. T’Pol could have very easily worn a standard Vulcan uniform, which we’ve seen multiple examples. The catsuit was blatantly used to try to regain some audience. Unfortunately they didn’t realize until it was too late that good writing and multi-episode arcs were what we really wanted.
It kinda killed Enterprise for me. The catsuit and the gratuitous “decontamination” scenes. It felt really off.
It’s not like I’m prudish or anything, I like that kind of thing in certain contexts. But it’s Star Trek, I’m watching this thing to get my nerd on. Trying to sex it up just made it weird.
I’m not entirely sure that seven’s catsuit was really what boosted ratings with adding her to the crew though.
The fact is, she was a good character with interesting development. She put life back into a kind of meh show and quickly became one of the stars over most of the original crew.
But ratings was, without question, the intent of that stupid outfit. It just makes me sad to think back that they might not have needed it.
She was added due to her looks, but she ended up being a surprisingly deep character. I like Steve Shives’s review of her character, and so did Jeri Ryan.
And it pretty much worked. Lots of TVs got tuned to UPN to check out Jeri Ryan’s tertiary adjunct.
And stayed tuned to UPN because Seven of Nine finally made the show work. She serves as a perfect foil for Janeway as well as that Pinocchio character that explores the human condition from the outside in, in the grand tradition of Spock and Data. And Jeri Ryan turned in 4 seasons of amazing performances in the role. All while vacuum packed from neck to ankles in silver vinyl.
Now Enterprise…it’s pretty obvious they tried to make that lightning strike twice with T’Pol but Jolene Blalock had some pretty big stilettos to fill and I don’t think she nor the writers really pulled it off. They of course ratcheted up the fanservice not only with T’Pol but with half the principal cast; Hoshi ended up pointlessly topless in one scene and Trip and Mayweather ended up in the decontamination chamber as often as T’Pol did. It was just generally a thirstier show, and that’s not the only thing about it that just didn’t work.
Don’t forget Kira. Her uniform was pretty much a catsuit after the first couple of seasons.
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I never understood why the producers put Troi, Seven of Nine and T’Pol into those stupid catsuits in the first place
Well, the reason was quite obviously sexism imo. They probably considered it eye candy/fan service from their chauvinist point of view.
Only Troi was actually Starfleet of all those people. But that doesn’t excuse the awful costumes.
Did you miss the 80s?
Only thing he did I actually agreed with.
I agree with everything Jelllico did. Riker was a whiny insubordinate baby. Jellico was preparing for combat.
The only thing he did that was questionable was set up 4 shifts. That’s a big change and having engineering work around the clock is a bit of a dick move.
Everyone seemed to prefer it on Deep Space 9 after they implemented it (at Kira’s suggestion).
Not again, please!
Omfg you got me with this one. I just started guffawing out loud and showed it to my GF who just shook her head and walked away.
Seeing what happened to him in that one comic set in the mirror timeline was my favorite thing ever.
Refresh my memory please? I believe you’re talking about the one where Riker and Picard have a punch out and Data look more like a Borg?
