• gon [he]@lemm.ee
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    9 days ago

    Holy shit.

    I’ve never been alive in a time when every human has been on Earth. That’s crazy to think about…

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        I like pedantry but want to go the other way. The ISS orbits in the thermosphere, still inside Earth’s atmosphere. I say that you haven’t really left Earth until you exit the atmosphere.

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            So basically, the Karman line is the theoretical highest point that an airplane can fly, or at least it was when it was calculated. If it were recalculated today it would be higher because of technological advancement. The definition used by the agencies that define it as the edge of space set an altitude near the originally calculated line. The functional difference between being above the line and below the line is that the keplar force will keep an object above the line from falling to Earth within 24 hours while drag will slow the object below the line enough for it to fall back to Earth within 24 hours. It’s fine as a functional definition but I see no reason that it should be universally applied. In the scope of this discussion why should we consider something that will fall back to Earth in 25 hours not be on Earth but something that will fall back to Earth in 23 hours to be on Earth?

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              That’s highly pedantic, you need to draw the line somewhere. At 120 km you get long-ish sustainable orbits, at 80 km objects decay within a single orbit. The ISS sits at around 420 km, well above that

              Btw, the airplane limit calculated by von Kármán was closer to 80 km, the 100 km limit is not based on his calculations.

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          i mean, even those guys who went to the moon still stayed within a very close proximity to the earth compared to the size of the solar system

          only when people travel to mars they will really have left the earth

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        unfortunately i feel you can’t call yourself spacefaring unless you actually control the ship, and we have about as much control over our trajectory as a mosquito has control over the amount of blood inside a blue whale

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      It’s the year 3250. Two harsh desert planets are in a bitter dispute over mineral and water mining rights over the asteroid belt. The Mars coalition insists that Earth may lay claim only to those rocky bodies that fall past her orbit. Earth insists that anything beyond their respective atmospheres is fair game. They use loaded language and plan to argue that an ‘atmosphere’ is one that sustains life, meaning she plans to mine uninhabited stretches or Martian soil too. There is serious debate on Earth of the inhabitants of Mars are even human anymore, cross breeding has become exceptionally difficult. Martians have a lower natural fertility rate and often need IVF to reproduce. Earth gravity is too strong for martians to safely return to the home planet, and so few Earthlings have ever seen one in person.

      The dispute, unresolved, leads to the second interplanetary war. A billion people will die on both planets. Mars will lose precious irreplaceable atmosphere. Earth will lose access to much needed water. The conflict only ends when neither can keep up the fight any longer.

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      Long term occupancy of the ISS started in November 2nd, 2000. Since then there has always been at least one person Manning the ISS.

      So at least one human has not been on earth for every day since then, thus, all of humanity was last on earth on November 1st 2000. The statement is factually correct.

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    9 days ago

    How do they know there wasn’t someone jumping at ever second of every day somewhere on earth up til then? Also people in airplanes.