Same police that do and defend this shit, then have the audacity to complain that the public doesnt respect them.
Why is everyone always saying ACAB? Oh yeah, reasons like this.
It’s just sadistic shit done by psychopaths to the vulnerable. They just like doing it.
They did not speak to the staff or explain to Burgess why they were there, jurors heard.
Instead, Smith told him: “Do you want to put the knife down or you will be sprayed or Tasered. Those are the options.”Instant escalation!
Footage from body-worn cameras played to the jury showed Smith then discharging the spray directly into Burgess’s face.
“Comments made by Mr Smith suggest he emptied all of the canister into Mr Burgess’s face,” Jarvis said.
Seconds later, Smith drew his baton and struck Burgess.
Comotto deployed her Taser and Burgess cried out in pain. The officers took the knife from him.A 93 year old man with one leg holding a fucking cutlery knife!
They could probably just have taken the knife from him without issue.
At 93 years people are not very strong.Jurors were told there was nobody within arm’s reach of Burgess at the time and it should have been clear he was not mobile.
So they had plenty option to stand back and talk to him too! But instead decided to go on a powertrip and escalate the situation immediately!
That’s a decidedly an unnecessary violent attack, and a breach of their position. So this should be punished doubly. The idea that officers should be protected by the badge when acting like criminal bullies is insane.He was taken to hospital after the incident and later contracted Covid. He died 22 days later.
What a sad way to end a life of 93 years. Maybe the officers can’t be blamed for him catching COVID, but essentially his life ended the day those officers entered his room and attacked him.
I am also not sure the quality of the home is very good, calling the police on behavior that sounds like dementia?!
Ok, I understand the officers likely used excessive force and this guy maybe had dementia or something but …
Burgess […] was seen poking a care worker in the stomach with a cutlery knife
Sorry, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for this old man.
Are you being sarcastic? Do you know what a cutlery knife is?
He was poking her with it, but nothing happened, because such a place a cutlery knife is obviously completely rounded and not sharp. He might as well have been poking her with a drinking straw.Guy may have been an asshole, May not. We don’t know why he poked her with it. I’ve been in plenty of nursing homes where I’ve seen staff that deserved to be hit in the stomach with a sharp and pointy knife due to how they denigrate and disrespect the residents.
Regardless, it does not entitle him to being brutalized by cops with fucking bludgeons, tasers, and chemical weapons.
Fully agree the cops went too far with how they treated him, definitely didn’t deserve to die.
A cutlery knife is not a butter knife, most are sharp and definitely capable of killing someone. Again doesn’t justify the cops acting in such disproportionate manner, but … definitely not the same as a straw.
Obviously not in a nursery home, where people with for instance dementia can turn aggressive for no reason.
It also very noticeably is not part of the story that the nurse being poked with it suffered any damage.
I used the example drinking straw, I probably should have used a spoon as example instead.A cutlery knife is a table knife, and those are very rarely pointy, and in mostly any kind of institution they are NEVER pointy. Unless it’s run by mad management.
Also they aren’t really sharp, so they can’t cut through your skin.A butter knife is typically wider, to make it easier to apply butter. But we are with 99.99% chance talking about a cutlery knife that has similar cutting ability to a butter knife.
Of course the officers can’t be blamed for him catching COVID
If you put someone in the hospital where they then contract a contagious disease and die, then yes, they can absolutely be blamed. Dude could’ve been sitting on his couch watching antiques roadshow right now if they hadn’t assaulted him.
I actually agree on that morally, But I think legally they probably can’t be blamed.
So I changed it to “maybe”.There is such a thing as felony murder, where if someone dies as a result of you committing a felony, you are charged with their murder. These being cops, however, my money is on paid vacation and a transfer to a new department.
There is such a thing as felony murder,
Seems fair to be at least somewhat responsible for the wider consequences of your actions.
These being cops, however, my money is on paid vacation and a transfer to a new department.
Yes this is probably the same everywhere, but IMO it’s turning things on their head when police is granted extreme leniency for criminal actions.
If police get into a shootout with someone and police gunfire 100% without a doubt hits an innocent bystander, in some states at least the cops can legally pin that injury or death on the suspect, for the same logic.
This reminded me.of this incident in Australia where a 95 yr old.woman with dementia using a walker was holding a knife and they tasered and killed her
Or the time Portland police tased a 71 year old unarmed blind woman:
https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2004/04/city_pays_excessive_force_clai.html
I just think if you can’t disarm a one-legged 93 year old without resorting to pepper spray and batons, it’s likely you’re bad at your job.
Lock the door, walk away. “When you’re ready to put down the knife, we’ll give you a sandwich.”
Food denial is a text book human rights violation, especially for the elderly and ddisabled. Might as well suggest they rip out his fingernails and just get it over with.
The actual, proper response here is to let him have the knife. Anyone healthy adult who can be killed in a knife fight with a 93 year old man deserves death. Anyone who uses violence to address a 93 year old man (with OR without a knife) also deserves death.
The only proper sentence that should be considered for these crimes is an immediate summary execution.
They literally have knife proof vests. What pussy ass wankers.
It was a cutlery knife, you don’t need anything to protect against that.
wielded by a 93 year old man no less, but no i’m sure the officers feared for their lives…
a 93 year old man whose in wheelchair bound!
I’m pretty sure my own skin could deflect it at that point.
“'Tis a scratch!”
To protect and serve the rich.
