Can we just hit the baseline and have Democrats NOT vote against their party’s interest?
Maybe I’m just cherry picking but policies in the past decade passed by a Democrat has been like 90% Democrats/ 0% Republicans approve.
But policies passed by a Republican is like 100% Republican / 20% Democrats approved.
I hope AOC can take over for Bernie.
Um… a good contingent of those voters didn’t vote. They did this to themselves.
More like, a good contingent of those voters voted unconditionally for these people, who they had every reason to believe would act like this. They did this to themselves.
Wanna win over people Dems? Stop pearl clutching and swear at the cunts like the motherfuckers they are.
“Voters expect government officials to do their job…”
Officials:
We want to stand up to Trump’s stock manipulation: but Nacy Pelosi keeps blocking bills making congressional insider trading illegal.
We want to stand up to Trump’s support for multiple genocidal dictators, but Chuck Schumer keeps pushing for more weapons to Israel.
We want to make majauana legal, but Kamala Harris keeps touting how she had sent majauana users to jail.
In short, we want democratic leaders who stand for democratic values or at least who don’t actively push policies counter to them.
“self-flagellate”… No I want them to stop sitting on their asses, self fellating.
DNC: “Best we can do is approving of Trump’s horrid cabinet picks, voting for internet censorship, and abandoning queer people because trans people are icky.”
I’d be way more enthusiastic to vote and donate and advocate if Dems weren’t just shooting the democracy they claim to protect in the foot and then handing Republicans the gun to keep it bleeding.
I want them to actually fight Trump. Or follow on the promises of arresting him from 2021 to now. Or enact policies that don’t make people consider fascism because they’re desperate and fed propaganda.
But that would cost money and anger the donators who back Trump and them, so controlled opposition it is!
Right right that’s true, we should focus on the future. But if you’re too blind to realize that most Washington Democrats are never going to help make things better, you need to look at the past more.
We got where we are for many reasons, which definitely include the actions of Democratic president and congresspeople over the last three decades. Those people brought us where we are, with Republican help of course, so we would be fools to expect any better from them going forward.
Yeah, this article is completely omitting, why Biden and Harris lost. It is not addressing that the current party elites are the same party elites like before the election. Biden and Harris life on politically in the DNC.
But it continues to simmer; data analyst Lakshya Jain argues that “Democrats are on the verge of a Tea Party-style, intra-party revolt.” He also identifies the anger as directed at Trump, not Biden.
“The numbers suggest that the fury is at least partly fueled by the Democratic base’s dissatisfaction with congressional leadership’s relatively conciliatory approach to Trump this time around, and their inability to stop him,” Jain writes.
It is the same “revolt” that was tried to prevent the party from loosing catastrophically to Trump by being a pro genocide pro wall-street party. It is the embracing of “bipartisanship” and peddling to “moderate Republicans” like Dick mass murder Cheney that is now voting alongside the Trump administration and rightfully despised. It is the same liars that kept pretending Biden was at his mental faculties when everyone could see videos of him wandering around blitzed out of his mind and gaslighting everyone who said Biden needs to drop out as “secret Trump supporters”.
There will be no improvement without acknowledging what went wrong, who is responsible and most importantly tossing the responsible people out and letting a new generation take hold, one that does believe genocide, war crimes and capitalism sucking the blood out of everyone are indeed wrong and need to end.
Guillotine for president 2028.
*2025
FtfyHell, 2016 would be even better.
Well duh !
We want some real pipe-swinging motherfuckers. The Democrats are (mostly) not delivering, because they’re beholden to their big corporate donors.
Well, fuck you Democratic Party. It’s time to radicalize.
If David Brooks and William Kristol can bring themselves to say “Abolish ICE” then it’s time for the centrist Dems to take that stance and the left end of the party to debate in favor of RICOing that entity.
Well, don’t think their dissent has anything to do with empathy, or compassion. They just don’t like seeing a gravy train derailed by an overgrown child.
I do want them to self-flagellate…the useless bums they have currently in office, and replace them with people with gonads.
The problem with that idea is that the Dems have been about the status quo for so long that it’s literally why Trump won. People aren’t voting Dems because they went the “don’t rock the boat” route for so long.
The Dems need a reform.
As a side note, I recently learned about what a giant piece of shit Jake Tapper is regarding his advocacy for Israel’s genocide as part of pretending to be a journalist. I don’t watch CNN, but for some reason I had the impression he was a commentator with some amount of integrity.
Dems and Republicans want the same thing. A kleptocracy.
Why would Dems stand up to anyone writing their bonus checks?
Kinda like the world wants Americans to do. But alas, they aren’t and don’t seem likely to.
Edit: and everyone just makes excuses and flagellates. Other countries protests over divesting from Israel or retirement age dwarf your reaction to fucking fascism, authoritarianism, and hate. Half a million in one European country show how complicit the country of “freedom” is.
Go fuck yourselves. Your problems are greater than the excuses you slap back at the world you are fucking over with greed and apathy.
You are culture of juvenile greed and hate.
As someone in the US, I kind of hate comments like this. Not because I don’t agree with you; I’d love for us to stand up to Trump, too, but the problem is, I don’t know how to (effectively) do that, I don’t think many others do, either, and whenever this comes up and I ask the question, ‘What exactly do you want us to do?’, the answer is always non-specific and weak, like “Protest!”, which, I mean… cool? We have been, but it’s not accomplishing much of anything. Really, I think the answer is ‘We don’t know, either’, and everyone else is equally as frustrated as we are and, like us, don’t have a better way to express it than calling for nonspecific action.
All that said, in keeping with tradition, I’ll ask you: What exactly do you want us to do?
Thank you this sums up pretty accurately how I’ve felt lately too.
Like, we’re effectively a collection of pseudo-countries loosely tied together by a federal delegation spread across a contiguous landmass roughly a third the size of the continent of Asia. Our cross-border infrastructure is a joke, worker protections are nonexistent and to drive several hours/days to the nation’s capitol to protest (which we’re being told does and doesn’t work??) is a level of cost many literally cannot afford.
In a lot of states we do see grassroots efforts to fight back and improve. That is a better comparison to smaller European countries that have won in fighting against government corruptions, imo. Even Texas recently had a small wave of progressive wins in local races.
Unfortunately I think a lot of outsiders see “you have guns there!” and as such want us to start an all-out bloodbath. I don’t think it’s wrong for the average citizen to not want to die unnecessarily, and/or only use arms for literal self defense rather than reckless political violence. (inb4 “bUt Ur gubbermint is aLrEadY violent!1! DoN’t WaIt!2!” yeah no duh, see “literal self defense”)
A good chunk of the 20th and 21st century European revolutions people point to when we ask were largely nonviolent. That’s what we’ve been trying too. Not unarmed, but nonviolent (also corporate property damage doesn’t count as violence).
Malcolm X, the Black Panthers and of course MLK are solid figurehead examples of American protest that led to some level of success. Protesters during the AIDs crisis too. But it took them years. We’re trying.
Another thing to think about here is that it’s only been about 4 months of this dipshit being in charge.
They are comparing what is happening now to other episodes of revolution or cultural rebellion that took (sometimes) decades to foment enough unrest to cause change.
People are doing things, and we’re pissed. But like, what can a person living in LA effectively do? We have blue reps in a blue state that is suing the government multiple times over multiple grievances.
Short of going out and getting kinetic there’s not much for people to ‘do’ yet.
I plan on getting more involved in politics. Start with sitting in on local meetings, maybe run for an office at some point. Bernie and AOC suggested, sounds like a great idea.
Good on you. Do you need any help crafting a platform or figuring out where to start?
I’ve now come to the belief that enough t supporters need to be negatively impacted and start voicing their concerns and start taking action - not voting for far right, maybe doing another insurrection against t this time. Nothing will change in the us as long as the r citizens continue to support this regime.
I live in a very red area and there are flags everywhere. But I’ve seen several houses take theirs down. There will be hope when having a flag up means something else. Until then there isn’t much we can do besides help our people/local community.
With that said, the d’s need to have their own project 2028 to actualize, and I don’t think they do because the party needs to be revamped. The geriatric unit needs to retire. The r’s and d’s have more in common than we acknowledge.
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Holy shit
We’re literally an invasive species.
If only there were some unique way in which Americans were better prepared than most populations to deal with quickly resisting and overthrowing a tyrannical government.
Oh well.
This is one of those comments that it’s really easy to make from the comfort of your home on the internet, and almost impossible to put into action. I’d go so far as to say it’s even more useless of a suggestion than the ‘Just protest!’ folks.
It’s a comment made by a person who lives in a country where in living memory a small spark of resistance led to the eventual defeat of the most powerful empire on Earth.
“Almost impossible”.
Sorry guys we didn’t want fascism but the alternative was just, like, hard.
You’re clearly advocating for gun violence without explicitly saying it. I think in most cases the folks who advocate for this are thinking of it in terms of either someone assassinating Trump, or in the whole country rising up and taking the government by force. I’m not going to sit here and discuss why either of those options are more than just, like, hard, nor am I going to advocate for either because I don’t think they’d have the effect any of us are hoping for in practice.
