Kinda like the world wants Americans to do. But alas, they aren’t and don’t seem likely to.
Edit: and everyone just makes excuses and flagellates. Other countries protests over divesting from Israel or retirement age dwarf your reaction to fucking fascism, authoritarianism, and hate. Half a million in one European country show how complicit the country of “freedom” is.
Go fuck yourselves. Your problems are greater than the excuses you slap back at the world you are fucking over with greed and apathy.
As someone in the US, I kind of hate comments like this. Not because I don’t agree with you; I’d love for us to stand up to Trump, too, but the problem is, I don’t know how to (effectively) do that, I don’t think many others do, either, and whenever this comes up and I ask the question, ‘What exactly do you want us to do?’, the answer is always non-specific and weak, like “Protest!”, which, I mean… cool? We have been, but it’s not accomplishing much of anything. Really, I think the answer is ‘We don’t know, either’, and everyone else is equally as frustrated as we are and, like us, don’t have a better way to express it than calling for nonspecific action.
All that said, in keeping with tradition, I’ll ask you: What exactly do you want us to do?
Thank you this sums up pretty accurately how I’ve felt lately too.
Like, we’re effectively a collection of pseudo-countries loosely tied together by a federal delegation spread across a contiguous landmass roughly a third the size of the continent of Asia. Our cross-border infrastructure is a joke, worker protections are nonexistent and to drive several hours/days to the nation’s capitol to protest (which we’re being told does and doesn’t work??) is a level of cost many literally cannot afford.
In a lot of states we do see grassroots efforts to fight back and improve. That is a better comparison to smaller European countries that have won in fighting against government corruptions, imo. Even Texas recently had a small wave of progressive wins in local races.
Unfortunately I think a lot of outsiders see “you have guns there!” and as such want us to start an all-out bloodbath. I don’t think it’s wrong for the average citizen to not want to die unnecessarily, and/or only use arms for literal self defense rather than reckless political violence. (inb4 “bUt Ur gubbermint is aLrEadY violent!1! DoN’t WaIt!2!” yeah no duh, see “literal self defense”)
A good chunk of the 20th and 21st century European revolutions people point to when we ask were largely nonviolent. That’s what we’ve been trying too. Not unarmed, but nonviolent (also corporate property damage doesn’t count as violence).
Malcolm X, the Black Panthers and of course MLK are solid figurehead examples of American protest that led to some level of success. Protesters during the AIDs crisis too. But it took them years. We’re trying.
Another thing to think about here is that it’s only been about 4 months of this dipshit being in charge.
They are comparing what is happening now to other episodes of revolution or cultural rebellion that took (sometimes) decades to foment enough unrest to cause change.
People are doing things, and we’re pissed. But like, what can a person living in LA effectively do? We have blue reps in a blue state that is suing the government multiple times over multiple grievances.
Short of going out and getting kinetic there’s not much for people to ‘do’ yet.
I plan on getting more involved in politics. Start with sitting in on local meetings, maybe run for an office at some point. Bernie and AOC suggested, sounds like a great idea.
I’ve now come to the belief that enough t supporters need to be negatively impacted and start voicing their concerns and start taking action - not voting for far right, maybe doing another insurrection against t this time. Nothing will change in the us as long as the r citizens continue to support this regime.
I live in a very red area and there are flags everywhere. But I’ve seen several houses take theirs down. There will be hope when having a flag up means something else. Until then there isn’t much we can do besides help our people/local community.
With that said, the d’s need to have their own project 2028 to actualize, and I don’t think they do because the party needs to be revamped. The geriatric unit needs to retire. The r’s and d’s have more in common than we acknowledge.
If only there were some unique way in which Americans were better prepared than most populations to deal with quickly resisting and overthrowing a tyrannical government.
This is one of those comments that it’s really easy to make from the comfort of your home on the internet, and almost impossible to put into action. I’d go so far as to say it’s even more useless of a suggestion than the ‘Just protest!’ folks.
It’s a comment made by a person who lives in a country where in living memory a small spark of resistance led to the eventual defeat of the most powerful empire on Earth.
“Almost impossible”.
Sorry guys we didn’t want fascism but the alternative was just, like, hard.
You’re clearly advocating for gun violence without explicitly saying it. I think in most cases the folks who advocate for this are thinking of it in terms of either someone assassinating Trump, or in the whole country rising up and taking the government by force. I’m not going to sit here and discuss why either of those options are more than just, like, hard, nor am I going to advocate for either because I don’t think they’d have the effect any of us are hoping for in practice.
Kinda like the world wants Americans to do. But alas, they aren’t and don’t seem likely to.
Edit: and everyone just makes excuses and flagellates. Other countries protests over divesting from Israel or retirement age dwarf your reaction to fucking fascism, authoritarianism, and hate. Half a million in one European country show how complicit the country of “freedom” is.
Go fuck yourselves. Your problems are greater than the excuses you slap back at the world you are fucking over with greed and apathy.
You are culture of juvenile greed and hate.
As someone in the US, I kind of hate comments like this. Not because I don’t agree with you; I’d love for us to stand up to Trump, too, but the problem is, I don’t know how to (effectively) do that, I don’t think many others do, either, and whenever this comes up and I ask the question, ‘What exactly do you want us to do?’, the answer is always non-specific and weak, like “Protest!”, which, I mean… cool? We have been, but it’s not accomplishing much of anything. Really, I think the answer is ‘We don’t know, either’, and everyone else is equally as frustrated as we are and, like us, don’t have a better way to express it than calling for nonspecific action.
All that said, in keeping with tradition, I’ll ask you: What exactly do you want us to do?
Thank you this sums up pretty accurately how I’ve felt lately too.
Like, we’re effectively a collection of pseudo-countries loosely tied together by a federal delegation spread across a contiguous landmass roughly a third the size of the continent of Asia. Our cross-border infrastructure is a joke, worker protections are nonexistent and to drive several hours/days to the nation’s capitol to protest (which we’re being told does and doesn’t work??) is a level of cost many literally cannot afford.
In a lot of states we do see grassroots efforts to fight back and improve. That is a better comparison to smaller European countries that have won in fighting against government corruptions, imo. Even Texas recently had a small wave of progressive wins in local races.
Unfortunately I think a lot of outsiders see “you have guns there!” and as such want us to start an all-out bloodbath. I don’t think it’s wrong for the average citizen to not want to die unnecessarily, and/or only use arms for literal self defense rather than reckless political violence. (inb4 “bUt Ur gubbermint is aLrEadY violent!1! DoN’t WaIt!2!” yeah no duh, see “literal self defense”)
A good chunk of the 20th and 21st century European revolutions people point to when we ask were largely nonviolent. That’s what we’ve been trying too. Not unarmed, but nonviolent (also corporate property damage doesn’t count as violence).
Malcolm X, the Black Panthers and of course MLK are solid figurehead examples of American protest that led to some level of success. Protesters during the AIDs crisis too. But it took them years. We’re trying.
Another thing to think about here is that it’s only been about 4 months of this dipshit being in charge.
They are comparing what is happening now to other episodes of revolution or cultural rebellion that took (sometimes) decades to foment enough unrest to cause change.
People are doing things, and we’re pissed. But like, what can a person living in LA effectively do? We have blue reps in a blue state that is suing the government multiple times over multiple grievances.
Short of going out and getting kinetic there’s not much for people to ‘do’ yet.
I plan on getting more involved in politics. Start with sitting in on local meetings, maybe run for an office at some point. Bernie and AOC suggested, sounds like a great idea.
Good on you. Do you need any help crafting a platform or figuring out where to start?
I’ve now come to the belief that enough t supporters need to be negatively impacted and start voicing their concerns and start taking action - not voting for far right, maybe doing another insurrection against t this time. Nothing will change in the us as long as the r citizens continue to support this regime.
I live in a very red area and there are flags everywhere. But I’ve seen several houses take theirs down. There will be hope when having a flag up means something else. Until then there isn’t much we can do besides help our people/local community.
With that said, the d’s need to have their own project 2028 to actualize, and I don’t think they do because the party needs to be revamped. The geriatric unit needs to retire. The r’s and d’s have more in common than we acknowledge.
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Holy shit
We’re literally an invasive species.
If only there were some unique way in which Americans were better prepared than most populations to deal with quickly resisting and overthrowing a tyrannical government.
Oh well.
This is one of those comments that it’s really easy to make from the comfort of your home on the internet, and almost impossible to put into action. I’d go so far as to say it’s even more useless of a suggestion than the ‘Just protest!’ folks.
It’s a comment made by a person who lives in a country where in living memory a small spark of resistance led to the eventual defeat of the most powerful empire on Earth.
“Almost impossible”.
Sorry guys we didn’t want fascism but the alternative was just, like, hard.
You’re clearly advocating for gun violence without explicitly saying it. I think in most cases the folks who advocate for this are thinking of it in terms of either someone assassinating Trump, or in the whole country rising up and taking the government by force. I’m not going to sit here and discuss why either of those options are more than just, like, hard, nor am I going to advocate for either because I don’t think they’d have the effect any of us are hoping for in practice.