President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn’t expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn’t commit to the same for Greenland.
“Something could happen with Greenland, I’ll be honest,” Trump said in an interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that aired on Sunday. He said that “we need that for national and international security,” but he added “I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it.”
Trump sounds more like Putin every hour.
I look forward to his funeral
The Margaret Thatcher of the US.
It’s a little different:
Thatcher fucked the kids.
Donald Trump fucks kids.
Maggie the milk snatcher vs. Donnie the Diddler.
Why is he so obsessed with Greenland?
Cause Peter Thiel (billionaire) wants to build a billionaire’s bunker there for the apocalypse.
Easy target from his perspective. Would draw Nato resources away from Ukraine, so his boss would be pleased.
When Trump does something incomprehensibly useless from an American perspective, always ask “What’s in it for Putin?” and you may find you get answers.
Theres a few reasons but it would be a huge military advantage, not that I agree with it
Natural resources perhaps?
He probably thinks it’s actually green.
Damn right. Cause the US would deputize 40 million insurgents both in and out of Canada if they ever tried.
It would be a very stupid and long battle for nothing
We’d take so many with us. And we’d go full scorched Earth.
Only if that kid was a better shot.
Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them
An invasion of Greenland, or Canada, wouldn’t necessarily be unlawful.
Remember 9/11? Remember George Bush asking Congress to approve his use of military force to hunt down the suspects?
Well that Authorization for the Use of Military Force, unlike any prior which had clearly defined limitations, was simply against “terror” and set to expire “never.”
One member of Congress refused to vote for this, precisely because she understood that Congress was effectively forever giving up its ability to determine when and how the President was allowed to deploy the military. She got death threats. She was right.
All Trump has to do is “find” a terrorist threat in a country, and he’s allowed to send US troops there. Remember how he recently decided that fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction? Yeah.
You’re thinking if us laws, but we’re talking about international law
The US deliberately does not subject itself to international laws, because it breaks them routinely. It is a rogue state in that regard, and it did not start with Trump or even Bush.
The US already attacked Canada using one of its propaganda tools: Facebook. This is cyberwarfare.
Facebook bombarded Canadian audience with right wing propaganda during the election.
Some have tried to argue that it’s actually facebook trying to get revenge for Canadian courts eliminating the cbc from social media feeds. Does that make any sense? They don’t care if canada doesn’t get news. They want that since they were curating those news feeds with stilted inflammatory content like many right wingers wanted in the first place.
Lol, that was funny. The powerful in the US don’t even care about domestic law, let alone international law, which has even less of an enforcement mechanism without the risk of starting an international conflict.
It’s the same reason why Netanyahu and Putin haven’t been arrested even though they have warrants out for their arrest by the ICJ.
He’s already trying with the Mexican gang in Canada. Congress are well aware of this strategy and it has been a talking point one the floor. It’s actually been said that US is more a threat to Canada not the other way around. In which more fentanyl and illegal immigrants pass the border from the US to Canada. I mean he has that angle in which he can complain about the Mexican gang but then he has to also admit he is also responsible for putting them in Canada. Cuz the US is the only path to Canada from Mexico.
You’re trying to use logic against a man who only uses logic when he needs it to make his plans sound legit to rational thinkers
There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American citizens. Why would he add the equivalent of another California to the voting population. No Canadian will ever cast a vote in favor of the political party that took their country from them.
What version of statehood is he envisioning here?
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
They already answered this question. They would use procedural rules to prevent Canadian votes from mattering, the same as they have done in the US in many states.
There is no way, in hell, that Trump plans on making Canadians into American voters
citizens.We’ll be like Guam or Puerto Rico.
It’s only rumours so far, but according to the new president nobody is going to vote ever again, soo
Making us citizens and giving us statehood are two different things, and I could see the former, but not the latter. Not that we would join willingly in the first place
Then he needs to stop calling it a 51st. A state can vote. A territory cannot.
Let’s stop debating the details of a stupid plan. Trump deserves total, unreserved opposition, not submissive "well, actually…"s.
No, he deserves prison. In the special section for dementia. That’s not Canada’s job. Americans need to sort their stuff out, lock him up and stop looking for countries to come to their rescue while they let him threaten with annexing. And stop bending the knee. I mean cmon’ how spineless can one be?
Canada didn’t bend the knee. Not like America has to him and his whims. America already has its own congress, a senate and a judiciary system. So not sure what you’re expecting Canada to do at this point to fix a bumbling dementia riddled idiot for America who put him there in the first place and seem to have failed in their own system to remove him whilst all the while complaining about it.
This is an American failure. Not Canadian.
Do US territories legit get no representation in government?
In Canada the territories are a riding, thus have a seat in Parliament (A massive one due to their small and spare population)
No, only states do. Although territories have members in congress, they can’t vote on any legislation. They have a government set up by Congress and pretty much oversee themselves with no ability to influence elections or laws in the states. The last territory to become a state was Hawaii. Territories are land grabs, statehood comes after that.
Canada would unfortunately be a land grab for the resources and nothing else for Trump. It would be ravaged and the people of Canada would suffer greatly for it without an ounce of ability to do anything about it.
They get non-voting representatives in congress.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-voting_members_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives
The scariest part here is that the Republicans are acting, in every way, like they will never be subject to a legitimate vote again.
I thought that’s the plan?!
That’s because they know the fix is in. Here are the receipts
https://sdvoice.info/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-here-are-the-numbers/
There’s no way he was ever serious about it, but i can’t for the life of me figure out his plan. Only thing i can figure is that it was some kind of negotiation tactic involving Greenland.
And this is where you’re not paying attention. He is serious. He has always been serious. Canada’s leaders are taking the threat seriously, so why would you think he isn’t serious? He is unstable, and taking marching orders from Putin.
I need a lot more evidence before buying into wild conspiracy theories about our top level of government being compromised by foreign countries. Canadian politicians are not taking it seriously except for how they can leverage it to their benefit. Carney won because of it, so I can’t blame him.
It literally is not a conspiracy. Trump is saying he is serious. Multiple govt officials in Canada are taking it seriously. Just because you refuse to believe an insane person would do something insane, doesn’t make it a conspiracy.
Because Putin promised Canada to him, in exchange for Alaska.
And you only care what the people think if you think they can hold you accountable in some way. Without elections, and with the largest military in history willing to fire on American citizens, the opinion of the people is irrelevant.
I consider the US our enemy. Even if we come to an agreement at this point, it’s the duty of every Canadian to backstab the US when such an opportunity arises. There can no longer be peaceful co-existence unless the US is split apart. Every Canadian employed by an american employer should start stealing IP and sabotaging operations. This is just the beginning.
This is plain dumb and the same rhetoric that got America into its fascist me first bullshit policy in the first place.
The system got hijacked. The people speaking out are getting arrested and deported to a foreign death camp. The US will course correct, or need help doing so.
Sit your militant LARPIng troll ass down and let the adults figure this shit out. A war is not good for either country, nor is a need for constant paranoia like you’re suggesting.
“Im gonna punch you but calm down. Stop acting tough. Punching me back will only escalate things. Thats how we got here in the first place. Its your fault Im gonna punch you.”
This is why the world hates Americans right now.
The fact that he’s even entertaining this is insane. He needs to be removed from office. Fuck the media for reporting on it like this is just one side of an argument that makes any kind of sense.
Threatening war on an ally, a member of the EU and UN; while helping the enemy.
That’s not what a russian asset would do…
Forcing the UN to split their forces between Ukraine and Greenland…
Totally not what a Russian asset would do.
Well shit… I don’t know how I did not see this angle. He doesn’t even have to deal with the back lash of dead US soldiers for a war nobody in their right mind will support… he just needs to present a legitimate enough threat to divide NATO forces. For fucks sake, I can’t wait for the morning I wake up to find out he is dead. Edited a word
The UN is not an alliance. Perhaps you were thinking of NATO?
Americans aren’t doing anything about it. Just sitting there taking it. If you’re not doing anything to fight Trump then as far as I’m concerned you’re part of the problem.
We shall cry ‘Havoc!’, and let slip the geese of war.
Whatever farm animal of war Lana.
If we need Greenland so bad how is it we’ve been just fine leaving them the fuck alone since forever?
The claim we need it for safety and security is bs considering we have probably more service members there than there are people in Nuuk.
Its all about minerals, which we have no claim to. If Greenland were a territory, the federal government would have full control over the entire thing. US territories are modern day colonies basically
Other real (albeit idiotic) reasons might include Putin feeding Trump the idea of the US having control of the newly ice-free Northwest Passage, or just a sheer megalomaniacal desire to secure his legacy via territorial expansion.
It’ll become more and more important as the north pole melts.
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Technically Wolverine is Canadian
Technically? He’s Canadian
Puerto Rico should be first in that line, followed by DC.
And Guam. And American Samoa. And US virgin islands. And mariana Islands.
And Gaza.
Marinara islands sound tasty
Bullies don’t attack people they’re scared of.
