The DOJ wants to bar Google from paying to be the default search engine in third-party browsers including Firefox, among a long list of other proposals including a forced sale of Google’s own Chrome browser and requiring it to syndicate search results to rivals. The court has already ruled that Google has an illegal monopoly in search, partly thanks to exclusionary deals that make it the default engine on browsers and phones, depriving rivals of places to distribute their search engines and scale up. But while Firefox — whose CFO is testifying as Google presents its defense — competes directly with Chrome, it warns that losing the lucrative default payments from Google could threaten its existence.

Firefox makes up about 90 percent of Mozilla’s revenue, according to Muhlheim, the finance chief for the organization’s for-profit arm — which in turn helps fund the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation. About 85 percent of that revenue comes from its deal with Google, he added.

Losing that revenue all at once would mean Mozilla would have to make “significant cuts across the company,” Muhlheim testified, and warned of a “downward spiral” that could happen if the company had to scale back product engineering investments in Firefox, making it less attractive to users. That kind of spiral, he said, could “put Firefox out of business.” That could also mean less money for nonprofit efforts like open source web tools and an assessment of how AI can help fight climate change.

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    10 hours ago

    i like how you make this sound like users are the ones at fault for not liking shitty things, how about mozilla tries earning money without making the world worse?

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      The internet runs on either ads, data harvesting, donations or the goodwill of solo developers. Firefox cannot generate revenue with ads or data and currently gets money from donations via Google and other companies. Are you expecting goodwill?

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        Personally, I’m fine with Google giving money to Firefox to be the default search. Keeps my browser in business and I just change the search. I don’t see a problem here.

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          Absolutely. If you’re privacy focussed enough to use Firefox then you can change a default browser in minutes if not seconds.

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        3 hours ago

        Let me donate directly to Firefox development. Stop giving their terrible executives giant piles of money.