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    An morewronger discusses the “points system” implemented by the Ukrainian armed forces where soldiers can spend points earned by destroying Russian targets on new drone hardware

    https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/sJpwvYsC5tJis8onw/the-ukraine-war-and-the-kill-market

    Lots of wittering about markets and Gotthards law, but what struck me was

    Now, this is clearly a repugnant market. Repugnant market is a market where some people would like to engage in it and other people think they shouldn’t. (Think market in human kidneys. Or prostitution. Or the market in abortions. […])

    (my emphasis)

    What “market in abortion”, motherfucker???

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      Now, this is clearly a repugnant market. Repugnant market is a market where some people would like to engage in it and other people think they shouldn’t. (Think market in human kidneys. Or prostitution. Or the market in abortions. […])
      

      i consent/i consent/ i don’t!!

      lol who asked them? stop the presses, homegrown techbro has an Opinion! also when you use up drones it’s only natural that you’ll need new ones. even observation drones go down all the time, and rewarding certain targets is just making sure that drones don’t get blown up on stupid shit, so this is government specifically incentivizing what would be most important targets to them, on top of regular rules of engagement and more specific orders. this one seems to be meant as supplementary program that also, or even primarily, makes nice videos for propaganda

      Introducing a market system, on the other hand, allows the lower-level units to take calculated risks. Destroy that many enemy units and you can buy, say, an armored vehicle, that improves your safety. Friction gets greatly reduced.

      these are drones for drone kills, nothing else. biggest thing i’ve seen is that some units get donations from their drone videos, and used these to get a car or jammer or more drones, but never APC or anything like that, it’s too big deal and too expensive, and drone operator is unlikely to benefit from APC anyway

      No side gets an advantage when both sides use it. Then there’s no point in using it in the first place.

      wtf? if using a thing gives you advantage over not using a thing, then you use it, if both sides are using a thing then it’s just red queen race. lots of current war looks like it even if frontlines are static

      But markets, unlike, say, chemical weapons, are not directly visible on the battlefield. Each side would suspect the other of using them despite the ban and might try to secretly use them as well.

      and this changes what exactly? all it will cause is slight preference in targeting because there’s only so many drones to be given out, and drone operator has to do the everything else part of their job. dogshit reasoning

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        Yeah they are normally all over anything with the word “market” in it, with an almost religious like belief in market’s ability to solve things.

        My suspicion is that the writer has picked up some anti-Ukrainian sentiment from the US right wing (which in order to rationalize and justify Trump’s constant sucking up to Putin has looked for any and every angle to tear Ukraine down). And this anti-Ukrainian sentiment has somehow trumped their worship of markets… Checking back through their posting history to try to discern their exact political alignment… it’s hard to say, they’ve got the Scott Alexander thing going on where they use disconnected historical examples crossed with a bad analogies crossed with misappropriated terms from philosophy to make points that you can’t follow unless you already know their real intended context. So idk.

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      Ah yes the centrist grey/gray tribe. “Prostitution”(ow look a shibboleth, see also “sex work”), and “abortion markets”(??) vs kidney markets.

      Im reminded of Jordan Peterson once dropping without a hint of self awareness, that conservatives have a higher disgust response.