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      Supremacists always appropriate things. Ok symbol, sacred numbers/symbols, clothing, words, deities, and twist it to exclude.

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        Because fascists have no creativity.

        As a general rule at least… I guess you can end up with a Leni Riefenstahl every now and then, but for the most part, if you were a good artist at the time in Germany, you were a target. And I guess one could call Josef Mengele “creative” if you remove all positive connotations from the word.

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          I had to wiki her, and read about Blue Light and her first propaganda film. And her “how could we know.” I guess for me it shows how easily anyone, dreamers and realists alike, can fall under the spell of skilled orators, especially the disenfranchised, wounded, left behind. Which is why I think it’s important to leave pettiness and insults behind and beneath us, and rise to healing language and honesty, first with ourselves, and then extended to our kindred. Because we are them and they are us. We just mirror our better and worst selves to each other. If what we see as the worst in ourselves repel us and cause us to use unconscionable language and tactics, why would our kindred react differently?

          I’m not talking about crimes against things or even necessarily institutions, but about crimes against humanity. The most poignant rl illustration I can refer to is the attempted genocide to the Jewish people, to now the near complete genocide of the Palestinian people. It was wrong then and it’s wrong now.

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        Yep. There are still swastikas all over Korea because it’s been associated with Buddhists for far longer than Hitler who appropriated it. Freaks out visiting westerners, though.

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        To give some context, originally a ‘nazareno’ is somebody paying penitence for sins committed since last years Easter. Part of their ‘penitence’ is to march in procession covered with those robes. The ‘capirote’ (the hood) is intended to keep those sinners (that could be important or well known people) anonymous.

        I’m not sure if this is still valid today or if it’s now just a performance. Someone from the south of Spain will more about that than myself.

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      Different country, this is a Dutch tradition. As a Dutch man, this shit is racist as hell and they know it. Anyone who still adores black Pete or dons the blackface is a racist motherfucker.

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          White Santa Claus = good and brings presents

          Black Peter = evil and punishes the kids

          Netherlands colonised africa.

          It has always been racist, there’s just no direct proof for it.

          These days after protests, they claim it’s grime, so they don’t paint their faces in black anymore but put some smut on it.

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        Nothing prepared me for this when I moved from the US to NLD. My first year I was so shocked. One Sunny Bergman documentary later (Zwart Als Roet) and I was vindicated. Nuts that it still goes on. Ongeloofelijk (unbelievable)!

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        Kohl-pech-raben-schwarz as it goes in one german story about saint nicolas, not just black but kohl-pech-raben-schwarz. Black-black-black-black-black :3

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    I got my own little guy I bought as a souvenir in Malaga during Semana Santa (Holy Week) 2013

    I call him Miguel

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    I saw the processions for Semana Santa a few years ago in Madrid. My girlfriend knew I hadn’t seen this before and didn’t tell me just so she could see my reaction.

    I was fairly shocked, and asked her what the craic with that was.

    She explained the KKK stole the look, and this celebration outdates the KKK by many years.

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    I was in Spain a few years ago, and decided against certain mementos for this reason. Sorry, it may not be KKK, but I won’t display a whirling log in my house for similar reasons…

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    In Spain they are called Nazarenos and are integral to the easter ceremonies of Semana Santa.

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    Didn’t the KKK get their aesthetic sensibility from various medieval/early-modern religious paramilitary organisations like the Spanish Inquisition and the Holy Vehm?