President Donald Trump isn’t attending the dignified transfer of four American soldiers who died in Lithuania, because he has instead chosen to attend a Saudi-backed golf tournament at his country club in Doral, Florida.
Trump hates the military.
Hopefully they remember that when the time comes to make choices.
We knew this from the last time around
Evidence suggests they do not make the correct choice
Idk. The military did not go along with the coup attempt. That is a win in my book.
Also my understanding was that Gen. Milley didn’t go along with troops on the streets during the pandemic/protests when Trump wanted it. Hence the stripping of the general’s security detail and clearance by our whiny bitch president on his return.
That’s good for us. Now he plays for our team.
Do people who make good choices decide to join the violence industry in the first place?
I served as a Medic. We carried weapons. And I used my GI Bill twice. I’m still working as a civilian Paramedic. That was a good choice for me.
I hate Cheeto Chimp and all of the MAGAts. So, some can make smart decisions.
This is an oversimplification of the situation. The US built everything so degrees are practically mandatory then makes the poors choose between life crushing debt or getting an education through the military. They prey on children of poor families. Obviously ‘not all marines’ and whatnot but come on a lot of times it isn’t actually a comparable choice and even when it is they’re still kids who often don’t know better
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I think “cares” is too strong a word. It would imply that it matters to him if they live or die.
So trump wants to fuck Putin? …oh. Yeah, that tracks.
Probably literally.
What does it matter? He has their unwavering support. He could have killed them himself and not lost the military’s support.
That’s not really true. He has the unwavering support of really old veterans who got the same fox news pill as the other boomers. The serving military voted blue in 2020. The Military Times elected not to do a poll in 2024…
There are very vocal service members who support him but the military as a whole does not and is not a fan of Hegseth fucking around in the DoD either. For example one published plan has us divesting our only mobile firepower platforms (strykers), just as the war in Ukraine is making everyone else want them. And F-47 did not go unnoticed either. The Air Force went from a study wondering if we needed NGAD to selecting a vendor without a flyoff and naming it. That thing is going to get ditched January 21st 2029. Then Hegseth is fucking around with physical fitness tests which is actually promotions, schools, and unit qualifications. This is making the most deadly parts of military dislike him. For example we’ve had women working with Delta for 20 years. First of all Delta isn’t giving them up, 20 years ago women were officially banned from combat and that didn’t stop them. Second it just conditions them to be anti-administration. So when they get ordered to go get an American “insurgent” who held a sign outside a Tesla dealership one too many times, they may just refuse.
Nearly 60% of active duty voted for him for his second term. This is not much change from the percentages for 2016 and 2020.
They may be regretting their choice but I see no indication they wouldn’t make the same choice.
I’d love to see a source for that. Afaik nobody did an active duty poll this time. And in 2020 the military voted blue.
military members are notoriously conservative, additionally they source thier fodder from rural and red areas, and usually are mostly white. 2ndary targets are disadvantaged POCs areas, especially the ones that cant pay for colleges.
They also require a high school degree and an entrance exam. And officers are sourced solely from University graduates.
This is not your grandpa’s military.
Yea officer different path, either academy, ROTCS, or officer candidate school. ROTC is where they are mostly sourced, academy needs like "Grad degree-like qualifications, LORS, congressional reccomendation,etc.
I’m not sure. Certainly, the weirdos who make the military their whole personality back him, but I haven’t seen any evidence that he’s outstandingly popular with the rank and file and his plans to completely gut the officer corps can’t have made him popular there.
Trump hates everything that is not Donald J. Trump.
Hey, that’s not fair. He’s also weirdly into Ivanka Trump.
I hate suckers and losers, too, that’s why I avoid interacting with MAGA Nazis.
trump also doesnt like when they are captured or dead,.
That’s the big difference. I like MAGA Nazis best when they’re dead.
stop trying to make trump sound good
Trump likes the part where the military conquers other countries. He hates service members, veterans, and all humans.
What did he call soldiers that die? Losers?
Especially soldiers who “got captured”.
Again
Golfing with the fucking Russian oligarchs is more important than honoring dead US soldiers. Fuck Krasnov.
Is it wrong that I am less infuriated by this than I am by the fact people still worship this idiot?
At this point, I am exhausted with being outraged by him. I cannot hate him more than I already do. Doing more evil shit may actually make me hate him less, because I simply cannot keep up to date with all the new reasons to hate him. But I cannot comprehend how millions of people can function in the world while still behaving like everything he does is objectively right. Not even the truly repulsive, monstrous shit, but the petty, insufferable bullshit like this. How do you excuse it? It do not comprehend how anyone can look at this and say, “Yeah, this guy should have nigh-unlimited power over the country and the ability to throw the world into chaos with a Tweet.”
Months back somebody on here described it in a simple two-word way that has stuck with me. Dumb and mean.
Many conservatives are just dumb and mean, and that is a nasty combination.
That’s not a perfect generalization, of course. Some are nice people who are profoundly ignorant and misled. Some are smart sociopaths. But it just fits too well for me to ignore.
I think it is important to laugh at the funny demonstrative shit because if you keep getting outraged for every unimportant thing that is done like the Gulf of America thing you’re not heard when outraging for actual things that matter like deporting people or silencing opposition
Agreed.
US politics is a fucking comedy. My colleague pulled up the picture of Trump standing with that goofy tariff board where trump is reading all the countries and how many percentages they would be tariffed. My colleague was absolutely cackling at the picture and kept saying “the supposedly richest country in the world and they announce this shit that will affect all of us on a piece of fucking cardboard!!!” 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I hate the guy but damn is he funny. Everything he says is a meme. He’s absolutely a prime example of what america is all about. Him sitting in a tesla and saying: it’s a computers. And : I love Tessler is just too funny. And they voted for him twice. I just can’t
For real. To me, Trump is the embodiment of the American stereotype. I know Americans think that the rest of the world stereotype them as being fat, but no no no. The behavior Trump exhibits is the American stereotype on crack. I am pretty anti America (sorry, not sorry) and have been since Bush, but even I could not have come up with a more cartoony and offensive American stereotype than the Trump persona.
Same, but Bush was a fucking rocket scientist in comparison. If someone told me that in the Bush area that thy’ll find someone way WAY dumber to elect. TWICE.
I would’ve never believed that. No way.
Oh same. I stayed up all night during the 2016 election and when Trump won I was laughing hysterically because I couldn’t believe what I was seeing and hearing.
My sweet, lovely and amazing boyfriend told me during this election that Harris would win because the Americans wouldn’t put up with the abortion stuff and I just told him that I thought he was overestimating the American population. He’s always thought my hatred for America was too unnuanced and unfair, but I mean… I have been right so far. Which isn’t really the win I was hoping for. I was actually hoping to be proven wrong at least once in my fucking lifetime, but eh.
Disclaimer: no, I don’t hate all American people. I know most Americans are chill. I just despise the me-me-me culture and how the system is built to screw the little guy over and reward the über rich 1%. The people deserve better. So so much better.
The good parts of this country are weighed down by the catastrophically shit parts.
I said the first time he was elected that, love him or hate him, you have to admit that he is an accurate caricature of America.
he knows his voters are stupider than he is.
Do you have links for that please? I want to laugh
On Reddit someone posted a parody of the whole affair. I believe it was originally posted on r/wallstreetbets, but it has since been deleted.
Trump is also applying tariffs to an island only inhabited by penguins and seals….
one of my bros was apparently listening to the same thing as white noise, dont you find his voice grating.
They were just suckers and losers anyway.
Nero fiddling as Rome burns.
he doesn’t wear a tan suit though so it’s ok
The amount of news articles that make me laugh have been steadily increasing.
What a clownly country.
memorable qoutes towards soldiers: " suckers and losers all of the, whats in it for them.
I dont like soldiers that are dead or captured, they disappoint me.
i Like the poorly educated.
I hate it here
Which letter of LGBTQ do you identify with, refrigerator?
Are you so mad you’re gonna go through my comment history? 😆
Sad, but true
“Suckers and loosers”
he said they are suckers and losers, and whats in for them, more than one occasion.
I remember the “Troops for Trump” that would set up from time to time. Never understood it. He’s disrespected them multiple times.
he did offer them to putins mercanaries before, when they put out hits on them.
While a man he admits is innocent is in an El Salvador prison
Trump blows off honoring dead terrorists to play golf? Unintentionally based.
Who are these articles for? This is Lemmy. Do we really have boomers here upset about him disrespecting “the troops”? Fuck the troops.
Edit: I guess the US “respect our terrorist troops” propaganda goes deep.
You and I don’t need to. The person ordering those troops to their death 100% does need to show respect.
Yeah let’s criticize the aesthetics of Imperialism instead. Like, what?
So it would be ok to kill poor brown people as long as the dude doing it is respectful to the poverty draft terrorist that cary out the terrorism?
Sure dude. That problem is him going golfing and being disrespectful.
No one is talking about imperialism we’re talking about basic human decency I have to assume you lack given this conversation.
Yeah you can’t mention US troops dying in a country we have no business being in and ignore Imperialism. That’s my entire point dude.
No one is ignoring it. We’re saying it’s not more important at the moment the recognizing the death of the people you order. That’s basic decency and their goddamn obligation as commander and chief. You seem to be the only one who is saying a belated conversation about imperialism is more important.
That’s shitty behavior so I’m simply going to assume you’re a shitty self absorbed person.
You’re being pretty harsh on that guy. Had you considered that America bad? Every soldier was literally Hitler because they were a member of America’s military and America bad. Checkmate.
These fuckin morons man, protest the war not the warrior. They’re usually kids who joined for money not to be idealogs for bafoons to push their narrative.
Not every Nazi was Hitler. But being upset that Hitler didn’t respect his troops is fucking stupid. If thats even on your list of criticisms for Hitler than I think something is wrong with your perspective. And if you did you would be saying that Nazis deserve respect. They don’t. And neither do American troops.
The only ones that deserve respect are the ones that desert and fight against the harms that they did.
No. I just give zero shits about the aesthetics of “military honor” in the US.
And any topic related to respecting the US military cannot be disconnected from the fact that it’s the largest terrorist organization in the world.
It’s like saying “oh damn, Putin wasn’t respectful to his dead troops”. Like, ok, I don’t give a shit about Putin or the troops that kill innocent people.
It’s not aesthetics, people died slow some respect when you’re the one who ordered it. No one is asking you to have common decency, clearly you don’t so I won’t ask.
That’s literally every military, but again you’re ignoring the humans that died who didn’t harm anyone and were involved in humanitarian efforts, let me say that again training efforts with an allied country not war. Stop being so much of a bigot you can’t see the tree amongst the forest.
No one is asking for you to care about Putin, you’re being obtuse. It’s especially dumb with Russia because they’re conscripts in a oligopoly who imprisons deserters and allegedly kills some.
We literally want them to be here you ignorant dictator-worshipper
Yes, the poor brown people of… Lithuania?
Sure. Its not like Lithuania asked for NATO Troops because they really dont want to go back to being an Oblast, it must be an imperialist ploy.
Did you read the article? These dumb ass joes died in a training exercise by getting their vehicle stuck in the mud.
What do you think NATO troops do? They bomb brown people in Western Asia.
I swear to God you idiots are so excited to come up with the most idiotic “gotchas” that you don’t even think about what is actually being talked about.
No one said they were actively bombing brown people. They were so stupid they died training to bomb brown people.
These dumb ass joes died in a training exercise by getting their vehicle stuck in the mud.
I swear to God you idiots are so excited to come up with the most idiotic “gotchas” that you don’t even think about what is actually being talked about.
Says the person who is so giddy people they do not know died they’re willing to pass judgement on the dead they’ve never met. You’re a piece of shit.
They were on a training mission in Lithuania, to simulate fighting conditions in a country like Lithuania. Wtf are you even on about?
How the fuck is that training to bomb brown people?
Holy fuck you people are dense. Yeah dude. They were training to “protect us from terrorist and Russians” just like in the movies. That’s exactly how the world works.
Remind me again what country we just recently bombed? Oh yeah, one of the poorest countries on the planet that spent the last decade being genocided by the US and it’s allies. The only country in the world performing any military action to resist the genocide in Gaza.
But yeah. The US military “fights bad guys”. I’m sure. Keep believing your delusions.
Don’t cut yourself on all that edge.
What I can’t believe is how easily the US military is giving up on this conflict. Letting the swamp win is disrespectful to the fallen. We need to send another truckload of troops into the swamp, and if they sink into it too, send another, and another, until eventually they can drive a truck in without it sinking. We can’t let the cost of these sunken troops go to waste.
Anyone who says we shouldn’t do this is secretly a pro-swamp infiltrator or an accelerationist who hates America because they just want to watch the world burn.
Exactly! I was wrong. I see the light! All of these comments replying to me and yours turned me into a patriot! We must keep throwing bodies at the problem! It would dishonorable to the fallen not to do so!
“respect our terrorist troop”
They were here to defend us from literal fascists in Russia. You know, those that commit literal warcrimes and crimes against humanity. You know, those that commit a literal genocide.
They are absolute heroes and deserve the greatest honour.
Fuck the troops? If anyone should be fucked, it needs to be you, “LeninOnAPrayer”. You have absolute double standards to talk about terrorism when you literally named yourself after a brutal dictator that overthrew the mensheviki democratic government to implement a rule of terror.
God damn. It’s like I’m back on reddit with how incredibly stupid some of you are.
Go suck a troops dick.
Have you ever considered that running on a platform of “America sucks” is unlikely to get you elected in America?
It would be great if more nationalists and the patriots actually put in effort to change the USA in their neighborhoods, they don’t have to be leftists.
Until then such people are obstacles, even if they get outraged over stuff like in OP news article
they don’t have to be leftists.
To me the most frustrating part is how much fascists like to steal leftist goals and rhetoric. Arguably they would have to be at least some degree of leftist to support the working class as much as they claim to.
