• lemmyng@lemmy.ca
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    17 days ago

    I’m not opposed to the message, but did it have to be an AI generated picture?

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      I’m torn on whether this is AI. The AI detectors I put it in say no, and the letters being consistent (all T’s looking like all other T’s, etc) says real person to me rather than machine generated. The wood grain is also consistent beneath the lettering, and it and the chain link fence don’t meander or disappear in any weird ways that I see.

      That said the building in the background looks weird to me, as does the lighting. And the combination of the wood grain plus the texture on the lettering does give it that weird quality that AI text tends to have, it immediately made me question it as well. I just can’t decide if it’s a weird artifact of real textures clashing or not.

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        17 days ago

        Its edited/manipulated in some way. The E’s are all the same, even the bump on the bottom part is there for all of them.

        Might be photoshop moreso than ai

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          Yeah, them all being the same is what makes me think person; when you look at those AI images with legible text, the text wiggles and is inconsistent when you compare something like one A to another A. But if you’re a person using linocut stamps or duplicating things in photoshop, letters will look the same.

          There’s other little things too, like the knot in the wood that the paper dips into, that make me lean more towards ‘real but strange looking photo.’

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            I’d lean more towards real photo but photoshopped and the original text was something else

            You can see the line artifacts around each repeated characters are the same despite the letters themselves being different sizes, so I’m leaning towards they just cut and scaled letters from the original text or something similar. You can see for example each T has a line artifact on the bottom left and each E has one on the top. Plus, if it was an irl letter stamp, they wouldnt have different sizes for the letters, at least not to this degree

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              I don’t know why people seem to forget about photoshop. Late night hosts were using photoshopped pictures in bits 30 years ago.

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        16 days ago

        Its slop, if you want to make a political point you shouldn’t need to steal (that post is AI generated)

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          Who cares? It’s a meme statement. It’s not using anyone’s likeness. Where is your proof that it’s AI and not graphic design?

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            It has a distinct AI blurriness, details are off, and the text is clearly edited (the original text from the AI image was probrally useless and unreadable)

            Conclusion: I would say with 80% certainty that this image is AI generated

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              I’m very surprised that anyone even responded to this comment. It was more to the OP that said “fuck AI” with zero evidence that it’s AI and doesn’t seem to understand how AI works.

              In fact I found the original. Which looks near identical. I’m more convinced this is graphic art than AI.

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    17 days ago

    Yep, it’s literally in the name unhoused/homeless. Will giving someone a home fix mental health and/or addiction issues? Probably not. But providing permanent, stable housing is a necessary first step.

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    It’s also funny to me when people say they are Christian but don’t want to help the poor. The good Samaritan is very clear. So is the bit about the sheep and the goats.

    But you can use the Bible to justify anything, I guess.

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      Christianity is about control for the powerful and bedtime stories to make you feel better about inexcusable shitty behavior for the masses.

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        That’s the church. I would take care to keep the institution distinct from the spirituality. Some of the most practicing and compassionate radical leftists I’ve ever met have been christian anarchists.

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      I’m not Christian and I don’t want to see them. Also I didn’t consider housing them to be my job. That’s why we have government that we elect and pay taxes to in order to fund it. This is just bs sign that simply virtue signaling instead of asking hard questions.

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        You don’t want to see them because you want them to be housed, or you want them to be forcibly moved so they’re unhoused out of sight?

        The government should be doing more for the housing crisis, but a first step for that is getting people aware of the issue and on board with solutions.

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          I don’t want to see them because they are dangerous. Reasons don’t matter. I’ve been harassed and my wife was attacked by homeless people in Portland. She has pretty severe PTSD right now because of that.

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            Everyone is dangerous.

            Kind of shitty to oppose systemic changes that would help them and reduce danger

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                Housed persons are peaceful. Unhoused persons are dangerous.

                Literally if public housing was dispersed equally and equitably across a given city or area, as time goes by, unhoused people would housed people nearby anyone. They become peaceful by your logic.

                The government might be able to do this using eminent domain, but people like you would oppose it in your neighborhood.

                Everyone has to be onboard with this so the load on everyone becomes proportional and not disproportional.

                And this is where American individualism gets in the way. People don’t value community, and so politicians would be hard pressed to get this done while being shunned from office come time for the next election.

                How do you break down American individualism? By removing barriers between housed and unhoused people, doing outreach, having conversations, and lending a helping hand in redevelopment.

                Sounds like you’re allergic to all of those though

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                  People like me? You know nothing about me. Like for starters that I already live in the neighborhood with high number of public housing units. I have nothing against them whatsoever. I encourage them to build more. Yeah like having outreach and all that other bullshit solved the issue. Did you catch that I live in Portland? I see with my own eyes that these policy are not working even though bleeding hearts keep on talking about them like they are Jesuses incarnate.

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          Not well. I don’t know if you mean to imply something, but I live in Portland and our government is very liberal. And yes I voted for them. And yes they have solved absolutely nothing.

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            The notion of government being not your job, something you pay someone else to do, is a fallacy. And the notion that it can be that is fantasy. But even if that were the case, you’d be a chump to not at least demand in writing an undelivered service that you already paid for. We do have local council reps now.

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              Wtf? Government is my job when I vote for it based on their declared policies. Demand services in writing? What are you talking about? What country are you from?

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                Government is my job when I vote for it based on their declared policies.

                Nope, that’s the fallacy again. Literally not the way that it actually works. You have to hold your reps feet to the coals. Interests that are opposite your own already understand this fact. You have to get involved at least at some minimal level, or you’ll never get what you want out of politics and will forever stay frustrated.

                Portlanders do struggle with this concept more than a lot of other urban Americans and I think it’s largely due to the fact that until a few months ago we were the only major city that didn’t have a city council. They look at me like I’m an alien, and ask things like what country am I from.

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                  I already have a job. I don’t need the second one. If I did, I would run for office myself.

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      Love thy neighbor as thy self, because let’s be real, they can just fend for themselves, and if they don’t, well, fuck the poor. I mean, why should I have to take care of all these lazy bums? They’re always begging for scraps anyway. It’s like, if you can’t handle a little poverty, then maybe you shouldn’t be living here. Fuck the poor.

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    I have more respect for someone who goes “I hate homeless people, I think they’re scum” and pushes for actually housing them because they don’t ever want to see them again, over someone who goes “Oh those poor dears! We really should do something!” and then just likes a social media post about hostile architecture and leaves it at that.

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    I wish more countries could address this issue rather than trying to pretend it isn’t an issue by implementing hostile architecture.

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      • Panhandling does not produce enough income to maintain a residence; if you think it does, go try it yourself.
      • Shelters are often highly restrictive, crowded or full, and more dangerous to person and property than hiding out somewhere.
      • There is a relatively high correlation between mental illness and homelessness. Pile on top of that substance abuse as self-medication. This makes navigating the bureaucracy that is HUD very difficult.
      • Fuck you.
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        ^^^

        Shit, even if I really wanted to help someone panhandling, it’s not like I ever have any cash on me.

        high correlation between mental illness and homelessness

        Probably as much cause as effect. Same with the substance abuse, everything in life is shit, you don’t have enough to get off the street but you can afford to get high enough not to care in the moment.

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      Section 8 has an 8 year wait list and you still have to pay 1/3 of your income, which is how much rental companies should be charging anyway. It levels the field, it’s not free housing.

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      You’re just satisfied with society abandoning its worst off as the visible reminder of what a shithole of a society we have. You have a lot of company since the owner class gutted public education to complete ruin over decades though.

      There is no “or” though. There is no world where the homeless punches themselves in the face or hides themselves from your eyeline for your amusement because there’s no point in appeasing the legion of sociopaths for profit “news” media has made like you in exchange for nothing. They’d rather eat with that panhandling money, and they’re right, sorry.