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    I remember the first time I heard someone use that phrase Mark of the Beast. It was by a conservative who commented online in the pre-9/11 internet, and it was in relation to a new article discussing the possibility of using RFID chips in humans for very specific reasons. Pets have been having RFID implants to help find them when they get lost.

    The guy insisted that these chips are the mark of the beast and he would rather die than get them.

    I don’t know if he is still around, but he if he is, he is probably someone who thinks Bill Gates is the devil for wanting to chip people but think Elon Musk is awesome for the same.

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      Lol back in the mid-90s, there were people at my evangelical church that believed credit cards were the mark of the beast. Credit cards.

      I’m pretty sure they all still had them though.

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        I mean, they’re not wrong. Enabling lower-income people to impulsively take on high-interest debt is one of the main factors perpetuating wage slavery.

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        A thing assigned to you that’s in your hand or your head that’s needed to engage in commerce? That’s…umm…I can see where they could get that idea, especially with the rise of online sales.

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      Pets have been having RFID implants to help find them when they get lost.

      Just a small correction, microchips in pets are there to identify them and identify who their owner is. They don’t have any geolocation capabilities, its equivalent to hiding an SD card under their skin.

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        Yes thank you. Memory is rusty. But I am sure you can understand since it was literally 24 years ago…

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    I’m generally opposed to quotes from that awful fuckin’ book, but context here works.

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      It really is just a bad book… Like religious beliefs and politics aside, it’s just not good reading.

      The only people who think it is haven’t read any other book in their adult lives.

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        You’d think an all-knowing being ought to be able to write a compelling book. Instead we get one filled with the worst crimes, yet it somehow manages to be soul-crushingly boring. You ever try to read it? Most people only manage a couple pages a day, and that’s considered devout commitment to it.

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    Non-Christian and non-Bible person here, but I think it’s probably best to be accurate about citing these things:

    Revelation 13:16-17 King James Version

    16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

    17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    Source: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13%3A16-17&version=KJV which also lets you switch around between other versions of the passage.

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    You won’t be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast. Think crypto chip.

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          Someone commented somewhere that I can’t find now… Trump as Plague (covid, firing bird flu, ebola teams), Putin as War, and Netanyahu as Death. With Doge also trying to end USAid, Snap, contracts and programs our farmers rely on, and Social Security… that tracks well for Famine.

          I don’t believe in it, but the idea haunts me that people are trying to force it to happen.

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            Regardless of the literature I think there’ll be another point soon where it will be undeniably obvious to people that lines are drawn in the sand and at that point it’s too late.

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      I would buy it too, if even just to display

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      Oh wow the dude kept adding to it. I remember reading this a couple of years ago, but it is kind of crazy that it just keeps going.

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    Ha ha, oh now things are getting a little feisty and controversial. I love a good meme that starts a fire. Nice……very nice.

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      How is the bible non-fiction? Quite a statement. Care to explain beyond “it’s written up by god’s disciples”?

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        The Bible (the old testament at least) is a history of the Hebrew people told from the point of view of their priests. I put it to you that it’s no more fiction than Livy repeating the tradition that Romulus and Remus were raised and fed by a wolf. Now, were Romulus and Remus literally raised by a wolf? Probably not, more likely they were raised by a Lupa, a she-wolf (Prostitute.)

        I’m not saying that every word of the Bible is historical fact, but I think it would be inaccurate to call it fiction.

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          Spider Man takes place in New York City, a very real location.

          Does that mean Spider Man is nonfiction?

          I put it to you that it’s no more fiction than Livy repeating the tradition that Romulus and Remus were raised and fed by a wolf.

          Right… which is fiction. It’s mythos, and that’s a subsection of fiction.

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          The film Once upon a time in Hollywood is a history of the Tate murders told from the point of view of her neighbors. I put it to you that it’s no more fiction than Tarantino repeating the tradition that the Inglorious Basterds blew up all those Nazis in a theatre. Now, did the Manson family members really get their shit rocked up and down by Cliff Booth and Rick Dalton? Did Hitler meet his end in a storm of righteous fury? Probably not, but it’s fun to imagine a better world.

          I’m not saying every frame of the movie is historical fact, but I think it would be inaccurate to call it fiction.

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      How is the Bible fiction? Quite a statement. Care to explain beyond “it’s made up by people”?

      Zombies and magic

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      A lot of fiction made up by people is not about war and greed and other causes of suffering. With that in mind, what makes the Bible less fictional than the Dhammapada, or the Lotus Sutra, or Paddington Bear?

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        also, there’s several instances where god commands people to go do a genocide. so… like…

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          The bible also condones slavery in several places, including by Jesus himself in the New Testament.

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          And don’t forget that the bible says it’s ok to murder your sons if they don’t listen to you and sell your daughters to their rapists.

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      How is the Bible fiction? If it were just made up by people then it would promote war and greed and other causes of suffering. I’m not an expert by any stretch but the Bible is a recipe for a good life and helping each other. I’d love to hear an argument that somehow trashes that message.

      Killing babies is essential to living a good life.
      -Kurious84

      Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.
      Psalms 137

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      i’m so happy you’re here. i also understand that my previous sentence may be interpreted as sarcasm, so i ensure you that it isn’t. you just made a point that i think is very beautiful.

      isn’t it weird how the “fuck what my dad said” god isn’t vibing with the “fuck what my dad said” crowd?