Cross-posted from “What’s up with the isekai genre? Are there any good isekais out there?” by @Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com in !manga@ani.social
It seems like every manga or anime adaption nowadays are isekais with absurdly long titles. As someone who hasn’t read that much manga for the past few years but just started again, it’s kinda crazy to see all these pop up. Are there actually any good ones out there? Or are most of them just “guilty pleasures”? The only one I’ve been reading is Ascendance of a Bookworm which is kinda interesting.
Isekai are popular and relatively easy to write; you don’t need to come up with elaborate settings, magic systems etc., you can just handwave it as ‘guy enters generic videogame world’. This attracts a lot of untalented writers trying either to make a quick buck or pour out their power fantasies, oversaturating the genre with a lot of shit.
But amidst that shit there are some nice gems, I recommend Hametsu Flag, I Favor the Villainess, The Magical Revolution and This Isekai Maid is Starting a Union.
Basically, isekai is the result of manga culture consuming itself. Mangaka like to write based on their life experiences. Some pull from their daily experiences growing up, their hobbies, and other things. In the past, this meant experiences were quite varied. However, now that most newer mangaka grew up with manga and video games as their primary cultural consumption, we have arrived at a cultural ouroboros where the isekai genre is consuming itself. The premises and titles will become increasingly elaborate until the genre implodes.
Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash. The anime only got one season but it was pretty solid. I’m not sure if the manga/light novels are as good but there’s at least more of them.
there is way more bad than good, because SAO got popular years ago and showed publishers that isekai fans will accept absolute slop, and not even the kinda slop you might like on a bad day. That said, there are some real good ones out there. In addition to what other people have said, I’d like to point out what should have gotten big instead of SAO; Log Horizon. It’s also about getting trapped in a game but log is generally about dealing with the world and the implications of it coming to life . For a minor spoiler:
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A big part of the early story is realizing using game mechanics to interact with a real world is uncomfortable at best so they figure out you can just interact normally. Instead of using a cooking skill to make a predefined meal, just hold the meat over the fire and put your seasoning on it. Or instead of going through a menu to fight, just swing your sword.
To mention one not already said.
ShangriLaFrontier
Isekais are so overdone, that even parodies are overdone. SLF doesn’t take itself seriously but also doesn’t make fun of the genre. Instead it’s like it wants to go “okay, but being OP in a VR world is hella fun”, and shows the characters enjoying being OP and fighting equally OP enemies. I especially enjoy the banter between the closest friends as the heckle each other. My only complaint would be, protagonist friends are also OP in their own ways but we never see them win over protagonist on screen, just implied during conversation.
Restaurant to Another World. Rather than the modern person going out to explore the medieval fantasy world, the fantasy world patrons enter a magical door to a modern restaurant, experience food cooked to modern excellence, and then go back to their own time inspired with a broadened worldview
Konasuba. Since it’s a parody of the genre. I’ve avoided everything else in the genre.
Sword Art Online taught publishers that people really want bland wish-fulfillment stuff where the hero just steamrolls any problems that shows up and then gets all the girls. Of course SAO had other things going for it, like good animation and a great soundtrack, but that isn’t what they can easily copy.
Shield Hero taught publishers that people want that but also with the main character owning slaves for some reason.
Anyways, due to these two things isekai has been almost universally weird af lately. That said, it’s not all bad. I liked The Eminence in Shadow, but I recommend the manga adaptation over the anime. The mangaka just has a really good sense of comedic timing. I’ve also heard good things about Shangri-la Frontier. There are a few more good isekai if you look at the pre-SAO era. Vision of Escaflowne was really good, as long as you come in with the expectation that this is a shoujo mech isekai so it’ll have a somewhat different feel to it.
Of course, that’s if you’re stuck on wanting to watch/read isekai. There’s been tons of great stuff coming out every year that has nothing to do with isekai. My favorites from the last 5 years have been:
- 2020 - Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! - A team of high school girls form a club and set out to make whatever anime they can with their limited resources
- 2021 - Vivy -Fluorite Eye’s Song- - The first AI-powered humanoid robot tries to prevent the robot apocalypse
- 2022 - Chainsaw Man - A sad boy has a wild (and bad) time. Honorable mentions go to Spy x Family and Bocchi the Rock. It was a strong year.
- 2023 - Skip and Loafer - A book-smart girl from the country moves to Tokyo for a better high school and adapts to city life
- 2024 - LOOK BACK - A story about 2 artists. Honestly this year was stacked too, so honorable mentions go to Bang Brave Bang Bravern! (big gay robots), DAN DA DAN (romance, yokai, and aliens), and Delicious in Dungeon/Dungeon Meshi (traditional fantasy, but really well executed).
Notably even though every year a whole pile of isekai gets released not one of them made it into that list. I’d avoid them as a general rule for a while, except when you hear a lot of people recommending a specific specimen.
Shield Hero taught publishers that people want that but also with the main character owning slaves for some reason.
Oh, it’s an open secret that a lot of anime plots are first tested in the pornography / H Eroge market first. Slave waifus (that fall in love with main character) have been a thing there for literally decades.
The question is how good do these writers hide that fact from the public and mainstream. And erm… Yeah, Shield Hero doesn’t do so good there.
Zenshu is killing it this season. Anime-original story, tries to actually connect with Natsuko Hirose’s “real life” (not just focused on the fantasy world but also her experiences before getting Isekai’d), etc. etc.
Reincarnated as a Slime is my favorite somewhat trashy isekai (as in: it follows all the tropes but otherwise the animation quality is actually really good). Its an “overpowered” show where the main character rarely comes across a real challenge though.
I’m a Spider, so What?! is a fun boss rush that had a deeper than expected story. Main character always wins of course, lol, but I think it “felt” like a challenge as she learned combat of this new world?
Overlord is a “take over the world” / “Kingdom builder” (Slime also is a kingdom builder but its not as good as Overlord). Overpowered once again, literally no one in the new world can challenge the main character. But I don’t think that’s a bad thing for Overlord, it allows the plot to focus on kingdom building / alliances / kingdoms rather than the fights.
A grossly underrated Isekai is: “The Weakest Tamer Began a Journey to Pick Up Trash”. Its basically just this young girl talking to herself for ~12 episodes as she’s forced to run away from home. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-biFNoRk-3I . Still, the people she meets on the journey are all helpful and optimistic. This isn’t a battle anime (she runs away from pretty much every fight), and she very much relies upon the kindness of strangers. Its actually quite unique for an anime since she doesn’t have nearly as much “Because I’m the Main Character” energy, even if she gets a few special friends along the way. Very much an “underpowered” main character, who has to mostly dig through trash, cry, find friends and run away constantly.
Re:Zero and Jobless Reincarnation are probably the most popular Isekai. But I didn’t like them. I figure I should mention them though.
The first season of jobless reincarnation was great (though I could do without any 5000 year old demons or whatever in a young girl’s body) but after that it felt like it lost all momentum.
Re:Zero is so fucking bleak I couldn’t stand more than a few episodes.
Since I didn’t see it here:
- Saga of Tanya the Evil | A psychopathic atheist bureaucrat makes a deal with God that he’ll keep his beliefs no matter what. So God reincarnates him (now her, named Tanya) into an alternate universe where it’s WW1, but some people are born with magic. The main character is one of those people, and essentially has a crazy amount of magic, but can only use it if they pray to God. Tanya decides to double down on their beliefs that God doesn’t exist and plans on outlasting the war.
Others have mentioned it under its Romaji title Youjo Senki.
That’s why I try to use English titles as much as possible.
There are good isekai, but it’s littered with slop. Some I enjoyed:
- Re:Zero
- Konosuba
- Ascendance of a Bookworm
- My Next Life As A Villainess: All Routes Lead To Doom
- No Game No Life (though note that it’s been a looong time since I’ve seen that one…)
- Youjo Senki
- Overlord
- Re:Creators (mostly interesting because it’s a reverse isekai, but has lots of boring exposition)
I think the Chronicles of Narnia is probably the best isekai.
4 humans of “reality” becoming Kings and Queens of a fantasy world after meeting the god of that world? With Judeo-Christian slop words thrown around to sound deeper?
Definitely an Isekai.
Alas, its too 'new". Its decades after “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”, which not only has kings, queens, fantasy, overpowered main character, science (gatling guns used on fantasy troops)… but also has the “Full Sentence Title” that Isekai are known for.
The first isekai was Robinson Crusoe. New World? ✅ Weird pro slavery rants? ✅ Overpowered MC with a cheat weapon? ✅
Full original Publishing Title btw:
The Life and Strange Surprizing Adventures of Robinson Crusoe, of York, Mariner: Who lived Eight and Twenty Years, all alone in an un-inhabited Island on the Coast of America, near the Mouth of the Great River of Oroonoque; Having been cast on Shore by Shipwreck, wherein all the Men perished but himself. With An Account how he was at last as strangely deliver'd by Pyrates. Written by Himself.“That Time I was Just a Connecticut Yankee but then I Appeared in King Arthur’s Court?!!”
I’d say Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a contender for best isekai if the target demographic is kids.
English dub of Digimon S1 is seriously a masterpiece, if we are talking about kid-based Isekai.
Yes. English dub only. Saban changed a lot of dialogue, music and such. Yeah yeah Butterfly (Japanese song) is great. But have you heard ‘Hey Digimon hey Digimon’??
I think parodies and deconstructions of the isekai genre are fun:
- Villainess Level 99
- The Hero is Overpowered but Overly Cautious
- My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered
Re:Zero, Bookworm, KonoSuba, Slime… There are a lot of good isekai out there.
“Good” is subjective. What’s your criteria for good?
I haven’t seen anyone mention Isekai Nonbiri Nouka. I thought it was pretty good.
