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In the 196 sub an OP was asking for advice on how to change their friends opinions which they disapprove of, because they were trying to warn them off of ‘the tankie triad’ and their friend didn’t have any issues with what they were seeing and was in fact subscribed to a number of instance already.

Clocks got banned first after suggesting that the OP try to be a genuine friend and try to find some common cause in real life rather than alienating people over abstract geopolitical factionalism:

> The original post feels like bait, but here is an authentic response. — Maybe genuinely be their friend instead of alienating them based on political flavoring. Perhaps you can be better working together to help others in your locality or communities than squandering over geopolitical matters. Swallow your frustrations, being annoyed is a part of being in a community. You can move on.

I raised the issue that censoring earnest advice as ‘tankie apologia’ and preemtively writing off any common cause/ isolating people is no way to win people over either as friends or comrades.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if ‘genuinely be their friend’ is ‘tankie apologia’ to be censored, I’m not sure you’re going to be very successful convincing anyone of anything in the real world.

I then got banned for this one, for continuing to find ‘the tankie triad’ extremely silly:

yeah that’s the context, I was just laughing because:

  1. only Lemmy users with an axe to grind call them that
  2. it sounds really silly, like they’re a nemesis to dr venture.
  3. I’m supposed to be the melodramatic one yet every day I get one-upped 😔

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I’m not here to tell them how to run their comm, my position is that this is way more draconian than anything I’ve run into in any of ‘the tankie triad’. The same groups of people loudly complaining about censorship on ‘tankie’ run instances don’t seem to have a problem enforcing vague/arbitrary vibes based censorship in their spaces.

  • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.mlOP
    9·
    1 day ago

    I truly do hope you are an anarchist.

    You’ll forgive me if I don’t get into specifics, I would rather not have to deal with IRL harassment. I’ve been at antiwar organizing since Iraq. It comes from an anarchist position, any war be it colonization or inter-capitalist conflict more broadly is always going to benefit capitalists first while killing countless workers in the process with nothing to show in the end but heightened exploitation and division. War should be opposed regardless of the narrative because it’s a tremendous waste of human life and resources, not to mention a distraction from addressing global issues like climate change and pandemics. War is always the hallmark of a political-diplomatic failure. I’ve worked with a lot of different people over the years, you’re never going to agree with everyone 100% because that’s just being human but you can still be friends and share common cause as long as there’s mutual respect and understanding.

    most anarchists tend to be in favor of shooting the people trying to kill you and annex you into their dictatorship

    I don’t have any issue with that, if people want to fight they should fight. However that’s not all that’s been happening, they have been drafting/kidnapping people to the front for some time. Ukrainians are not a monolith and there’s plenty who would rather not die defending lines on a map. I don’t think any anarchist should approve of a state under martial law pressing people into service. I understand that it’s a necessary evil in many situations, after all many anarchist revolutions have also used conscription. Don’t kid yourself that it’s ‘anti-authoritarian’ to be drafting people to your cause though.

    • WillStealYourUsername
      8·
      1 day ago

      Don’t kid yourself that it’s ‘anti-authoritarian’ to be drafting people to your cause though.

      Rest assured that I do not