Tell someone is American without mentioning American.
He took off his shoe and threw it at the bug to kill it, but a revolver he had hidden in the shoe fell to the ground. Upon making contact with the floor, the gun discharged and the bullet hit the victim in the foot.
That’s even more bizarre; how does one hide a gun in their shoe??
Bro was in Get Smart universe
“Chief! It was a giant swarm of bees, chief! Would you believe it? A hundred giant bees, with automatic weapons!”
“I find that hard to believe, Agent 86.”
“Would you believe a three very large spiders, armed with rifles?”
“…”
“Would you believe…a cricket with a derringer?”
When you roll a nat 1…
Naw.
The DM broke out the special dice (see below,) and turned it to a divine 1. Just for that guy….
(Edit: credit where it’s due)
Why are there so many fucking accounts less than 30 days old? Do y’all just keep making accounts every week? Are there this many newer Lemmings?
Reddit did another stupid, so there’s plenty of new joiners
Not long ago Reddit introduced a new policy thatpunishes people for upvoting bad posts, which includes posts about Luigi Mangione. After that, people have been moving into Lemmy as an alternative.
Thank you for the context. Always happy to see growth, the paranoid bit of me always jumps to the worst conclusion.
nah, they’re all me. I’m creating accounts to fake the numbers :)
This reference may or may not be before your time … forgive me, I’ve seen this before.
Think of it as “Eternal September” and you’ll be able to take it in your stride … brace yourself, this is going to happen more and more, at least for a while.
To be fair, I’m only noticing because I’ve switched to Voyager and it shows which accounts are newer, but there’s a ton! My instinct is to think troll farms. But, I’ll be happy to live in an eternal September.
Pretty sure it’s another wave of refugees.
Yeah, Voyager here too. The indicator helps evaluate if I care enough to respond. As for Eternal September, it was a doozy and the road was pretty rough.
That said, I’m still here, so there’s that 😇
Real american gun owners have guns everywhere: Shoe gun Belt gun Hat gun Bathroom gun Church gun
Bra gun too, there was the woman that shot herself in the head while adjusting a gun in her bra
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-woman-fatally-shot-self-while-adjusting-bra-holster/
She was in the Navy, no less. You’d think that she’d have gun safety drilled into her.
Based on the amount of church shootings, church gun isn’t far off…
I imagine it was more of a cowboy boot. There is some room around the ankle calf area where you could conceal a smaller gun.
Also, an ankle holster makes sense to me. Awkwardly rushing to take off your shoe while hoping around on one foot could dislodge the weapon from the holster.
A bigger question is, why would you store a revolver with the hammer cocked? I don’t think a double action revolver would just “go off” with the hammer uncocked. The drop would not be strong/violently enough cock the hammer. The hammer would have to be intentionally left cocked, so a drop could accidentally release it to fire the round.
There are older revolvers that can go off from a drop that’s just right. Modern revolvers have a safety gate that covers the pin the from the hammer except during trigger pull. IIRC, Taurus, S&W and Ruger have all had this problem in the past.
Edit. Called a transfer bar, and is pretty much standard on single and double actions.
He has a prostetic leg, obviously!
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not because that’s actually a good explanation… Even if you’re on a wheelchair, I can’t imagine having a lump of metal in/on/under your shoe being comfortable at all if you have a real foot.
If his claim is true he probably had an ankle or boot holster. Taking off his boot dislodged his gun and it fell to the ground discharging. I could not imagine the blisters from trying to walk around with a loose gun in my boot, a crease in my sock is above my threshold.
It would be extremely ironic if he had a prostetic leg and was shot by his own gun in the other one. It was a joke.
It may have been a boot
I was very skeptical about this story playing out as told. When looking for a more complete article, this exact story is published from 2019 from multiple sources.
While I don’t think it is a requirement all guns sold in the US need to pass the SAAMI Drop Test, I can’t imagine anything being sold that wouldn’t pass it, especially a revolver where the design likely hasn’t changed in 100 years. The drop test covers drops at various angles from 4 feet high, higher than a person sitting and taking off a shoe. Revolvers also need to have the hammer pulled back before firing or have extremely long and heavy trigger pulls.
I’m calling both fake news and if this story did happen, I can’t see it being anything but a negligent discharge from someone assuming it wasn’t loaded or just being a fool putting a finger where it didn’t belong.
But does the drop test take into account an external hammer when thrown at high velocity in a shoe?
If so, they really swung for the edge cases on that one. Their manager would have been upset they wasted productive hours on that until this happened.
I took a concealed carry course ages ago, and it helped to instill a healthy level of paranoia about unintentional discharge.
My takeaways were:
- fuck semi-auto pistols. Many working parts means many points of failure; carrying with a round in the chamber is dangerous as fuck, especially combined with a hair trigger; even if you don’t think there’s one in the chamber, there’s no good way to verify visually without opening the chamber, and even then people tend to give themselves a false negative and carry hot thinking they’re carrying safely; if you don’t carry hot, you have an extra step to perform under panic-levels of anxiety, aka you fumble with a gun-shaped brick for a couple seconds while your assistant proceeds to murder you; and blocky shape = blocky imprint = you’ve made yourself a target before a potential altercation even begins.
- Revolvers are the way cuz ^that. And the imprint is more varied, making it conform better to your pudge and not stand out through your clothing. But even among revolvers, fuck any that have an external hammer, which can get snagged on clothing or something, pulled back partially, released, and strike a round causing it to fire without even touching the trigger.
- Internal hammer, double-action-only is the way, cuz ^that.
- Load one round fewer than the cylinder’s capacity, then close the cylinder with the empty chamber on top / in line with the barrel. Your gun is now only physically capable of firing by fully engaging the trigger. You can drop that fucker out of an airplane, and when it hits the ground it goes thud, not bang. Also, since the back of the casing seats further back than the back of the cylinder, there’s a gap that you can look into to visually assess whether or not there are any rounds loaded; and where or not the individual chamber in line with the barrel is loaded (hot).
Absolute safest way to carry. Only downside is you only have 4 shots to work with, but if you need more than that, you’re probably dead anyway.
I largely agree, but less so with the empty chamber/hammerless points. Anything modern is going to have a transfer bar blocking the firing pin from reaching the primer without a full trigger depress. For the hammerless, I don’t know if you could drop that thing in any way from any height where the internal hammer would get enough inertia to overpower that trigger spring. Anything to do that would advance it to the next chamber anyway and come back on a loaded one.
Even so, having people be extra cautious is better the extra careless. You should always do not just what is safe, but also whatever you are comfortable doing after understanding your own personality.
Take a look at double action semiautos like the Ruger LCP. I think it’s the best of both worlds.
Aren’t most revolvers six-chambered, not five?
The majority are, but ones made really small (think sterotypical tv/movie detective with ankle holster or shoulder holster) typically hold 5 to minimize overall size.
Even larger guns can either have 7, 8, or 10 shot if they’re made for really small cartridges for relaxed target shooting, or 5 if they are one of the modern uber magnum bear defense types.
Preamble: My parents divorced when I was young, my dad died a few years later, and I never really got to know him. Plus I have childhood trauma and ADHD, so I don’t remember a lot of my childhood. My parents weren’t great people, and life was pretty rough and tumble growing up.
When I was in my early teens, I found a newspaper clipping from before I was born in some scrapbook or memory box. It was a short little crime blotter story that indicated my dad had accidentally shot himself in the face, because he had mistaken a snub-nose pistol for a lighter while drunk.
I do remember that he had a big scar on his face, but I sort of assumed it was because he liked to get in fistfights for fun.My mom, a serial liar, confirmed the story, and it’s what I and another one of my sisters have believed for decades.
I mentioned the event in passing to my oldest sister a few months ago and she balked, and immediately began laughing. After she composed herself, she explained that she was home when it happened. The real story is that my dad had ripped someone off in a drug deal, and they did a poor job of trying to kill him. The whole drunk/lighter thing was to avoid additional questions by the police.
So, you know. Gun in a thrown shoe. Sure.
I love these tyoes of family secrets! 😂
Probably not too many ways to create a narrative where you look intelligent for getting shot randomly.
Oooh, boy.
Shortly after my parents divorced, my mom both fell more heavily into drug use and moved us (me, and two of my sisters) halfway across the country to the magnificent town of Throckmorton, Texas.
My mom found a dealer, who became her boyfriend, and they wound up spending a lot of time together. So much so that sometimes they’d take us to abandoned houses and leave us there for hours before they came back. My mom was going through a phase - she wound up doing her hair so much it somehow looked orange in the sun and green in the shade. But she also was sort of falling off being around the house. Sometimes it was just a day, then a day or two. We learned she lost her job, which was a problem - the house we lived in was provided by her employer. And one Friday she left.
When Monday rolled around, we didn’t go to school. Didn’t really see a need to. The school called that afternoon, and we were honest with them. Our mom was gone and we didn’t know what to do. By Wednesday, they had managed to contact our grandma, who had extended family nearby, and they swooped in before CPS.
We were eventually mustered back “home” to where more immediate family lived, and we floated for a long time. Not quite a year, but long enough that we moved up a grade and we celebrated NYE at my grandma’s.My mom emerged from wherever she’d been. She convinced my family to bring us back to her, to come live in a battered women’s shelter in Abilene - not far from where she’d disappeared. She was in AA, and NA, and even briefly went back to college.
She never told us believable or consistent stories about what happened. It was always a tale of woe and coercion. Once she told us her drug dealer was an FBI agent that was using her to conduct sting operations and threatened to put her in jail if she stopped helping. In another, it was kidnapping. It was never that she got strung out and tried to run away.
And that may not have been it either. Because after my mom died a few years ago, my sisters, who stayed close to the places we mostly grew up (I fled half a country away), found a weird creative writing exercise she did. A mother’s letter to a son she gave up for adoption. Kinda weird, but my mom was weird and increasingly tried to get into more creative pursuits as she aged. But then they found a police report that said she got arrested for attacking her boyfriend. The report indicated that she was pregnant. Then they found paperwork from a hospital - standard pregnancy stuff, dating to the time period she was in the wind. The last thing they found was another police report, this time from him assaulting her, indicating she was about 6 months pregnant.
And that’s all we know. We don’t knew if this pregnancy came to term (my mom had 6 miscarriages before she had her last known child). We don’t know if an adoption took place or is she abandoned the kid with her drug dealer - who is now apparently a church alderman (one of my sisters looked him up from the info on the police report).My mom was both very prideful, and quite racist. Our working theory on why she took this secret to her grave is that it reminded her of her failings and, you know, that she boinked someone she was racist against.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/customerservice/productsafetyrecalls
two handguns on that list in the past two years, one in 2023 which can discharge if dropped. the other if decocked. the world is full of poorly designed machines.
The Ruger was a bit of a surprise. The Taurus was not. They have a pretty bad history for this. Both are striker fired semi autos, which are more mechanically complex than a revolver. The only revolver recall I saw this millennium was for a Rossi, which is also owned by Taurus. If there wasn’t a plant in Georgia, I’d think they’d have been banned from import by now from the massive PT series recall.
Also “article of clothing” isn’t the best holster option, and likely increases the odds of injuring one’s self much more than even the worst pistol to make it out the factory door.
I could be wrong of course, but if I had to put money on either him shooting himself and making a corny excuse vs even the cheapest gun on the market going off from a 2 foot fall, I’d feel very confident putting my money on his index finger. The gun in a shoe and then forgetting about the gun in the shoe don’t paint this guy as the safest character.
why would you try to shoot a bug with a gun? that just seems like the stupidest thing ever.
He did not. Read the article.
Police said that the victim, a 50-year-old man who uses a wheelchair, was attempting to kill a cockroach with his shoe.
He took off his shoe and threw it at the bug to kill it, but a revolver he had hidden in the shoe fell to the ground. Upon making contact with the floor, the gun discharged and the bullet hit the victim in the foot.
It’s an American thing. Too many morons with guns.
He did not. Read the article.
Police said that the victim, a 50-year-old man who uses a wheelchair, was attempting to kill a cockroach with his shoe.
He took off his shoe and threw it at the bug to kill it, but a revolver he had hidden in the shoe fell to the ground. Upon making contact with the floor, the gun discharged and the bullet hit the victim in the foot.
Why wouldn’t you?
Kill it with (gun) fire!
This sounds like embodiment of US
You should win those fights.
