• davesmith@feddit.uk
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      17 hours ago

      If you are one of the lucky people who haven’t had their lives decimated by more austerity, more benefits cuts, interspersed by bouts of meaningless ‘essential’ work (such as stacking shelves) on a zero hours contract, good for you. You can have the luxury of taking that attitude, and feel good about yourself while you do so.

      But, genuinely with the best will of the world, when you are looking at not far off a London a decade, immigration is simply not sustainable. Ignoring this reality pushes Reform towards power.

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        15 hours ago

        You should watch Gary Stevenson on YouTube. The problem is wealth going to the rich. Immigration is the ruse.

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          8 hours ago

          I am aware of this, however, the reality on the ground is exactly as I described.

          Nobody is going to fix capitalism in the time frame available, so deal with the world as it is, not as any of us would like it to be.

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        Want really pushes Reforms power is believing that immigrants in some way make it harder for you to find a job. Of course they don’t, that’s bullshit. Companies like Tesco’s are not allowed to hire people who aren’t documented, and the thing is, they don’t. Literally no one ever has lost their job because a company hired an immigrant at bargain in basement wages, it doesn’t happen.

        You just believe it happens because you believe Nigel.

        If you were going to berate people you really should look up what you’re talking about.

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        when you are looking at not far off a London a decade, immigration is simply not sustainable.

        What on Earth does that mean?

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          I don’t believe Nigel Farage for one second.

          There is absolutely no doubt that immigration has battered poor, former working class people in the UK. From perfectly decent people of Eastern European origin taking the role of scab labour, undermining pay and conditions, leading to the misery of zero hours contracts, to difficulty getting any unskilled work, to the ‘benefits’ system and healthcare being absolutely hammered.

          This simply isn’t sustainable.

          The coming climate refugee crisis will make this look like a picnic. The line is going to be drawn, it is only a matter of when. We have missed all of the chances to minimise the impact of climate change, and help developing world countries achieve a demographic transition to a low birth rate future, without exploiting their fossil fuel reserves. It is too late.

          Net migration to June 2024: 728,000. https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

          Multiply that by ten gives you 7.28 million - nearly the number of people in London. This is primary school maths. You have wasted my time once, I will not have it wasted again.

          And for the record, I am believing Oxford University, the link I provided, not Nigel Farage. Who are you believing? (This is a rhetorical question, I am not interested in an answer.)

          I know that people want to feel good about themselves, and they also want a high consumption lifestyle (that is most contributing now to the future climate change refugee crisis). Political liberalism covers the hard fist of neo-liberal economics with a soft and fuzzy veneer of socially liberal policy. Neo-liberals don’t want to feel racist while consuming an amount that destroys others. Unfortunately for many people in countries like the UK, neo-liberalism’s sell by date is passing. The result in our case is the rise of Reform, Trump, and other far right parties across Europe.

          You all just assume that is what I want. In fact I want the opposite.

          You are currently incapable of dealing, or unwilling to deal with reality. This inability or unwillingness is contributing directly the Reform’s rise to power. This need to feel good about yourself while not only failing to be adult enough to deal with reality, while at the same time insulting and making incorrect assumptions about me is genuinely pathetic. You are an embarrassment. Most won’t be able to learn so the rise of the far right it is very likely to be. Well done.

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            There is absolutely no doubt that immigration has battered poor, former working class people in the UK. From perfectly decent people of Eastern European origin taking the role of scab labour, undermining pay and conditions, leading to the misery of zero hours contracts, to difficulty getting any unskilled work, to the ‘benefits’ system and healthcare being absolutely hammered.

            Yeah bollocks. Immigration has nothing to do with lack of low skilled jobs.

            Exported labour is the huge cost. The UK simply not making thing in the UK. Immigration is nothing but distraction.

            The whole argument that less available staff increases wages collapse when other nations have lower cost labour.

            All reducing staff dose is make the UK as a whole less competitive cost wise. And move even more low skilled jobs to other cheaper nations.

            The immigration debate is nothing but a wealthy business owners tactic to stop voters recognising the real problem.

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        Anyway the point is he didn’t come in on a small boat, and it’s the small boats that are apparently the problem. So this kid is fine.

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    I read this as the Home Office sending a message to people like this couple. They almost certainly know it’s unfair and they may even lose on appeal but they have successfully highlighted the importance for people who travel into the UK to be bloody careful in checking their vehicles (including exterior bicycle bags, if the couple’s claims are true). The downside is that should someone sneak onto a vehicle successfully from now on the chance of them not being reported has risen a bit. There’s also a point to be made I think about the media latching onto this story because they love anything controversial to do with immigration. The other thing I wonder about is the life that boy must have led to get him to a point where he would do such a bold and dangerous thing. Brings home what a cushy life I had when I was 16.

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    Clearly what should have happened is that the stowaways should be granted asylum and the motorhome couple should be paid £1000s for their services in helping these desperate people to the UK. /s