Americans, watch and learn. The French dont duck around when they protest.
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Heartwarming.
It does send a strong message.
It really does not… Or do you think anyone over at Tesla gives two damns? Do you think this will affect the shitshow in the USFA? Tomorrow no one will remember this crap, except the people that were locally affected in France. Luigi killed a person, I can’t condone violence like that, but I have to admit that that was a strong message. Imagine if instead he would have burnt some healthcare centres… It’s the 0.1% that’s the issue, here you are damaging the other 99.9%. Again, not condoning violence, but a guillotine makes less damage and well used give a real strong message.
You’re right. All of these news articles about Tesla vandalism definitely makes people want to buy them and that makes the stock go up which is really all we want… Amirite?
You lost me at not condoning what our lord and savior Luigi did. Violence sometimes is necessary and justified.
You know what I’ve noticed. Burning Tesla’s don’t make the stock price go up. So yeah I think Tesla gives a damn.
Perhaps they spontaneously combusted?
We can’t rule this out. I mean do we have any evidence that they didn’t spontaneously combust?
I know this is meant to send a message, but I think it would be more hurtful to Tesla to leave those cars to rot on the lot. This way they’re getting paid by insurance for all those cars.
And eventually anything connected to Tesla will cost too much to insure. Remember insurance companies arent obligated to give you cover.
Gotta love the free market.
Hey, revolutionaries need to start somewhere. We need to support their learning journey!
If the goal is deterring purchase, then it would actually be most impactful to vandalize teslas that have already been bought. Torching them in a dealership has people going “it sucks to be that dealership.” After all, they didn’t torch any cars that had already been bought, so what is the harm in buying one? If people are only targeting dealerships, you’ll be safe.
Spray painting swastikas on them on the street has people second-guessing whether or not they want to own one personally, because they don’t want to be targeted. Basically, a dealership isn’t personal enough to deter personal ownership. A dealership says “we’re targeting the corporations,” whereas vandalizing individual cars says “we’re targeting every Tesla.” You need something that sends a strong “you could feasibly be next if you buy one” message.
I’m not even saying you’d need to torch them. You’d just need to vandalize them to the point that the owners don’t want to drive them anymore. It’s a pain in the ass to clean, but spray paint can be cleaned off. And also, it doesn’t disable or destroy the car. So you’re not depriving the owner of its use in the long term (except for the psychological “it could happen again” side of things). But it’s enough of a pain in the ass that most people won’t even want to risk owning one in the first place.
I guess I don’t see how attacking the property of a hard working individual, who’s political stance you don’t even know, would be beneficial to making Musk feel some pain. Hate on Tesla all you want. Clearly the world feels the same, based on their poor sales. That’s where the real damage will come from. I just don’t think we should be attacking the properties of individuals.
I guess I don’t see how attacking the property of a hard working individual, who’s political stance you don’t even know, would be beneficial to making Musk feel some pain.
Burning Teslas in the dealership lot is short term pain, quickly recouped by insurance claims. Making people afraid to buy Teslas at all has the potential to kill the entire company in the long term. And that’s not something that can be recouped by an insurance claim or a corporate reorganization effort.
Property is less important than democracy and the social contract. Insurance will cover the body work.
The aggregate effect of multiple counts of vandalism is real and substantive harm to a man who is attempting a coup of the US government.
But if this keeps happening, no one will insure them :)
It’s not about money, it’s about sending a message.
Every day I turn more into the Joker.
Why not both?
c’est la vie
Guys, stop burning the dealerships cars. They just get to claim back from their insurance. Leave them there, trapped in their coffins on the dealership floor. Taking up space. make it unprofitable to do business with nazis, so they can’t order new stock from Tesla.
No continue to burn them. Insurance doesn’t want to lose money either and will probably raise rates. More burned tesla means higher rates.
No, you’re wrong here. Tldr, its way more expensive to have an unsold vehicle on the lot floor.
So, I understand it’s not an independent dealership, but it’s a dealership. So, let’s assume there is a $50k Tesla on the floor of the dealership, given Tesla’s slim margins, it probably cost Tesla somewhere around $45k to manufacture. As with most businesses like this, a significant portion of the vehicle manufacturing costs is done using credit, and settled once the vehicle is sold. So let’s assume it’s 50% and $22k is from a loan (it’s higher, but I don’t know what that number is). They pay interest on that loan until they have made enough money from the sale of the vehicle. They pay insurance every month on the vehicle, while it stands there gathering dust. They pay staff, to operate the dealership, with no sales. It’s a crisis!
Now, assume someone burns the car. Your insurance pays out for the car, the building repairs, and any (made up) operating losses from not being able to trade. Tesla makes money back, settles the loan, no more interest. Cash liquidity looks better and you can pay staff and operating costs at the dealership. Tesla also gets to tell investors that they “shipped” another Tesla.
Now, you may be thinking, but what about the insurance premiums. Yes, you burned a few cars. Of the thousands that are insured by Tesla. Insurance premiums may go up a dollar or so per car, but this is the power of underwriting risk, is that any single incident which may leave you shit out of luck, actually becomes really manageable by comparison.
Unless the cars aren’t insured, in which case it’s a crisis.
Also, if the vehicle is discounted to significantly below cost and sold, they stop the cash bleed, but there is a loss, and we can call it community service for being Nazis.
Don’t burn dealership (or sales outlets or whatever the fuck they call themselves), don’t burn their cars!
Last time this topic came up, I think I remember reading something about Tesla not actually selling through dealerships, so this would directly impact Tesla itself. A quick Google did confirm that.
You know what probably hurt them more than lost sales, raising insurance rates.
Also I wouldn’t have so much faith in them staying unsold on a lot. Eventually he’ll just have Trump give them massive government contracts to buy them all.
Insurance will only pay the first time it happens. Once insurance smartens up and realize that attacks are targeted, then rates will go up or insurers will just deny coverage for Teslas
