I don’t understand what this is saying :(
I obviously cannot tell you what to do, but I ask that you rethink this decision. Jokes are jokes until they aren’t (see sigma male culture). People will unblock the sub for memes until the forum is hijacked by actual propagandists and poisons the well.
I genuinely believe satire (including memes) was one of the worst things to come from humanity. Because most people on this space-rock are dumb-as-rocks, and cannot tell the difference between a joke and an idea. So your spicy meme becomes their thesis paper.
Write it down as 700TB and it will be more accurate.
And C: instead of system32, to represent everything that was created using programs that rely on system32.
Nah, if you are deleting everything on your PC, you’d better report it as 700EB or 7HB…
I would actually want to see conservatives (who doesn’t currently support trump) come and debate stuff.
I don’t agree with them, but I want to see what their perspective is.
Having a conservative community on a non-corporate site would help prevent the most extreme opinions of the right-wing and minimize russian propaganda (because we have manual applications). Give them a space here, allows them to be exposed to opposing views, preventing far-right extremism.
(Obviously, the trumpers are too far gone and we shouldn’t platform them. Racism, sexism and stuff like that should Never be allowed)
Maybe a c/DebateConservatives type of thing?
After the last couple days, I want nothing to do with these fucking backstabbing traitors.
I agree, but most Lemmings seem to be completely intolerant of right of center views. I’ve never seen any content in that community that’s right of center without being downvoted into oblivion.
If Lemmings just don’t want other views here, that’s fine, it just kind of sucks when all I get is an echo chamber.
Maybe you should consider why that is. After several decades of “right center” politics being like “we promise we’re not crypto fascists” ultimately enabling Trump, you are still confused about why people are so hostile to those exact same narratives?"
It’s not our fault that the actually reasonable conservatives were already drowned out by the raving lunatic fascist mobs.
gestures broadly at US federal government
By how much the overton window shifted in the US, those (non-trumper) conservatives should really be called “centrists”
I mean, according to magats, “liberals” are “far-left” 🤣
This seems to come from the assumption that right wing views have equal validity and exist on an equal footing, but they just don’t.
Right wing autoritarian attitudes are just whatever is propped up by the propaganda of the prevailing hierarchy. They’re blasted out of mainstream news outlets everyday. They don’t survive on merit, but on funding.
Like honestly, if you want to hear what conservatives have to say, go watch their news, listen to their pundits, join their social media apps, but if you’ve got half a brain then you shouldn’t be surprised that it’s just a pile of callow, self-serving bullshit. You will be disappointed. You won’t see a reasonable debate of the ideas.
Like this is an open system. Anyone can make an instance. You know why right wing instances just… aren’t? Because they can’t stop themselves from being bigots, which most people hate, actually, and gets them yeeted, so they don’t thrive here. It’s not some conspiracy or bias, it’s just what happens when assholes aren’t shielded by some big daddy corporation. They can’t hack it.
“Right of center views” currently means lies, propaganda, and reality denial. I do not consider myself a leftist (though I do agree with leftists on a lot of things) nor a communist, but there is absolutely nothing of value the current right offers.
I do agree Lemmy (and Reddit) are echo chambers. The real solution? Go outside. However, you’ll likely find most people are very apathetic (and easily fooled) but not necessarily right leaning.
Show me a right of center viewpoint that isn’t hateful or in bad faith and I won’t downvote it.
“Right of center” means the insufferable liberal types on LW.
Fascists feeling unwelcome is exactly how things should be.
Go on X and hang with your treasonous fash friends then.
That’s not how this works… you just go to a different instance like wtf?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It was entirely abandoned, and that was just the latest set of mods. From what I understand, the .world version has been through three sets of mods.
Most serious conservatives around here just want to spread hate and misinformation anyways, should have seen what happened to the .ee version mods, removed by the instance admins because they were doing shit like quickly resolving reports so the admins didn’t see them to allow crap like Nazi celebratory posts to stay up.
Huh… wish I was there. Oh well seems like the fediverse is working, yay
You’re playing with fire, this is how thedonald started. It was all a joke until it wasn’t. Then it became a cesspit.
This one was already serious. The worst that can happen is it goes back to what it was before.
It’s also how flat earthers started. 4chan started satirically memeing about flat earth. Then idiots saw it, missed the satire, and picked it up as a serious thing. At that point, 4chan went “this is funnier than any satire we could make” and stood back to watch the crazies launch rockets into the upper atmosphere.
The Flat Earth Society was founded in 1956.
4chan’s downfall was mainstream media telling everyone that Nazis were on the site, so all the Nazis who were watching mainstream media went to 4chan and without moot running it, they were allowed to fester.
I first found 4chan around 2005 and there definitely Nazis on it. And pedophiles.
Absolutely idk what that guy is smoking
Flat earthers have been around (heh) for centuries. It’s mostly a religious thing in order to rebuke science in order to keep people stupid. There’s a passage in the bible that refrences the four corners of the earth that gets refrenced by these people as proof. It’s a way to keep people in their cult, because the outsiders are the ones who are tricked into beleiving in round earth ftom scientists.
I’m more of a dinosaur earth guy myself
As someone who once played with the Earth’s actual distancing math, fuck the both of you.
I would say that it really became a thing in its current form in the 1800s. Lots of the weird Biblical “literalism” (and I think things like Salafism/Wahhabism) come from the combination of widespread literacy and direct access to the texts + those ideologies that deny that you need anything outside the text to interpret them yourself/solo scriptura.
You can try to calculate the size of the earth yourself the same way Ancient Greeks did.
What we’re seeing now is related to shitposting being taken seriously for sure (the “birds aren’t real” thing has also been making a slow shift from stupid joke to conspiracy therapy, I think that’s how “Helen Keller” don’t real started)
I trace it back a bit further than 4chan though. You start to see it all the way back in the 90s on Usenet, pretty sure that’s around when the Flat Earth Society Forums - which were clearly mostly Poes - started too.
I think that 4chan started a lot of this apocalypse that way.
4chan was sold in 2015 and that’s when it took a hard right turn.
“Shoop da woop” was a popular 4chan meme dating to at least 2006. Also the whole “newfag”, “oldfag” etc thing has been going on since forever.
Are those supposed to be far right slogans or something? This was normal stuff at the time.
“Fag” is a homophobic slur and “shoop da woop” is a blackface meme and yes it was all very normal 4chan.
My dad used to be on 4Chan all the time in the 2000s, he told me being called a fag was considered a form of endearment, not an insult. I’ve never heard newfag or oldfag be used by the far right, they typically go for actual insults instead.
“fag” is a homophobic slur that was actually even more hurtful to use back in the early 2000s when LGBT people were a lot less accepted by society than today. That said your Dad is technically correct and it was a “term of endearment” among homophobes on 4chan which was largely comprised of straight white men in college had/has a self-deprecating sense of humor.
There was definately a tone shift when the site was bought. People were usually mocked if they were actually right wing over there.
Damn, sounds like a familiar story now
Yea, but I’m a mod Who’s Built Different™️
oof ouch my hubris
Nice! I unblocked it.
This is peak US politics. No wonder y’all seem to be so fucked…
Having said that, best of luck with the community.
!conservative@lemmy.world because there is no clickable link here.
aww. I was enjoying /c/conservative being run on anarchy principles.
Only the best memes of conservatives, made in the most conservative region of the conservatorium.
If it’s not made in the conservative region, it’s just sparkling fascism.
Porque no los Dos?
how did you managed that?
Blackmail and bribery lmao jk, I just made a request on the support comm with a proposed set of rules, a week later and the rest is history lol
blackmail and bribery
A true conservative
Putin will be proud
Turns out we can make the world a better place
Nice man, happy for this development. Do your best in your new role!!
By being funny.
!conservative@sh.itjust.works is better anyways 🤷♂️
I don’t trust this.
It appears legit anyway. Haven’t seen any posts in that !c from the usual trolls, it’s only funny people now
There’s a couple guys still trying to post shit from Breitbart but they get downvoted so badly now they never appear on hot.
We’ll see in the longer term… in the meantime I socialized a few memes.
It’s true, you can trust me >:)
I’ve looked through the history and I could only find a post “it’s now unmoderated as well”. How did that happen in the first place?
I think you might be on one of the others, .world is the one going satire lol
For various reasons, .ee version they were removed because they weren’t taking care of things, SJW version was just abandoned and I think .world was also abandoned
I think pretty much all conservative communities seem like satire much of the time. Hard to believe they’d actually be posting stuff other than to make fun of whoever made it.
Without Russia troll bots posting there to engage people the sub usually dies very fast. It’s evident on Reddit when Putin redirects his trolls somewhere else the site on Reddit become very quiet
