• sfu@lemm.ee
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    2 days ago

    It wasn’t even a Nazi salute. Did you guys listen to what he said when he did it? He thanked those that supported him, put his hand on his heart, then sent his love out to those people.

    Why does everyone twist everything? Even if it were true, it would still be vandalism.

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      If it wasn’t a Nazi salute, then you should have no problem repeating it in front of other people, yeah?

      Do it. Go do that exact same gesture at work tomorrow in front of your coworkers.

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        1 day ago

        I would be doing it on purpose. I think he did the gesture in the spur of the moment, not meaning for it to look like that. Time will tell.

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          You’re saying that the individual who is arguably most likened to Hitler in the entire planet accidentally threw a Nazi salute… twice? Get the fuck outta here.

          Edit: liked into > likened to

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            1 day ago

            Not sure how he is most like Hitler on the whole planet, he’s not even the leader of any country. I haven’t seen him talk about any particular race being dogs.

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          So you went from “Nobody could possibly misinterpret it when you see the context!” to “He did it in the spur of the moment and that’s why it looked awkward.”.

          So how long before we reach “Even if it was an intentional Nazi salute, I don’t care anyway.”?

          You’ve got no balls, by the way. If you aren’t willing to repeat EXACTLY what he did, then you are admitting that what he did is socially problematic and subject to misinterpretation. They key takeaway here is that despite the blowback he’s still getting from it, Musk does not see anything problematic with it. That should tell you everything about who that gesture was meant for.

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            1 day ago

            Those first two quotes can both be true.

            I said I don’t think it was intentional as a Nazi salute, and as I’ve been saying, time will tell.

            Sorry, I don’t follow mush and watch all his tweets. I don’t know what all he has or has not said. The only thing I have said is that by watching the actual video, I would not have thought it was a Nazi salute. And if it was not, maybe he hasn’t said anything because he finds it funny that people are claiming he’s a Nazi when he isn’t. I have no clue on that last part, just a guess.

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      2 days ago

      It’s amazing a dude can do back to back Nazi salutes and people on the Internet will still defend it because “he said something afterwards that lets me deny what I saw with my lying eyes”

      What’s next? The dude goes around waving a Nazi flag but later on Twitter he proclaims he’s now a Hindu. So I guess you’d still believe him? Come on mate. You can do this.

      It’s a duck mate. You can believe your eyes. It’s ok. You’ve been lied to for a really long time and it’s hard to undo all that because it defines a lot of who you are as a person. I’ve been there mate. The first step can be from this though. He did a Nazi salute. You don’t have to unravel the rest of your beliefs yet. Just start with admitting what we all saw with our eyes. He did it twice just to make sure you knew.

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        2 days ago

        lol on the Hindu comment. If he did that, then I would change my mind.

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          Tell me. What is the difference between the swastika or the salute? I’m gonna guess the main difference is you haven’t read 100 reply guys trying to come up with any reason to deny he’s a Nazi. Do you know who does that? Nazis. Nazis know that it’s still not expectable to be a Nazi. So they will always try to get you to “not believe your lying eyes”. While always doing dog whistles to signal to other Nazis. But this salute wasn’t a dog whistle. It was a fucking mega phone.

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      Dude, that was a (neo)nazi salute without a single doubt. I’m from Germany. We learned about this shit a lot. History class is like 90% related to ww2. We can spot a fucking nazi salute from miles away. You disgusting nazi apologist, fascist pick.

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        I’m not a Nazi apologist. If he never does or says another “Nazi” thing again, would you apologize for calling me that?

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          Why would I? He keeps doing that shit! He’s actively supporting the far right extremist AfD in germany and he’s doing the same many other European countries. He’s a fucking nazi prick. And people who downplay this are nazi apologists. Fuck off.

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            Why are you acting like that towards me? All I did was give my opinion of what I saw, big deal.

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              Because you played something down the way certain people won’t acknowledge the holocaust. It’s disgusting and extremely hurtful to people who grew up learning about the awful shit the Nazis did. Elon is a fucking Neonazi and he’s the richest fucking man on the world. That’s extremely dangerous. We’re just lucky he’s dumb as a fucking rock.

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        It is possible for frozen images from a video to be out of context. It really is. Like I said to someone else, time will tell.

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          Yes. It absolutely is. If only there wasn’t a video of this dude doing a salute back to back

          https://youtu.be/joV-9FFoA3Q

          On top of that “the future of civilization” is a dog whistle to the 14 words of the Nazis

          We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

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            I’ve seen the video multiple times, I still don’t think it is an actual Nazi salute. His future of civilization comment (in context with what else he was saying), I don’t think was a Nazi comment either. Why? Because he was basically saying the future of our elections and government was going one of two ways. If I’m wrong, time will tell. I’ll have to wait and see.

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      Funny to see you bending over backwards to defend some asshole who wouldn’t even take the time piss on you if you burst into flames riding in one of his pyrotechnic monstrosities

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        If my enemy did one thing, and some says they did something else, I’ll speak up and say the truth.

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          Bruh, it was a nazi salute. Get over it. He knew what he was doing and he accomplished exactly that. He made a gesture that people perceived as a nazi salute, because it was 99% the same as a nazi salute and mirrored exactly what these far-right psychos were already doing, and then he gave just enough plausible deniability to keep people guessing who were on the fence, like you. Take a stand and hold him accountable, because this is some nazi-Orwellian doublespeak you’ve fallen victim to.

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      It wasn’t even a Nazi salute

      Yet he’s perfectly fine with people believing that it was? Only one type of person that wouldn’t be tripping over themselves to make sure others didn’t mistakenly think they were a Nazi… Take a wild guess who.

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        I’m pretty sure he isn’t arguing with people, because he thinks they are ridiculous for saying that’s what it was.

        fyi, I’m not really a fan of the guy, I just never would have thought it was a Nazi salute (after watching the actual video)