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    Bias fucking bullshit. Why is Joe Rogan named and not the podcast that usurped him? Media fucking blows

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      They name it in the first sentence, and at least for me, given it’s longevity and word of mouth I know what Joe Rogan implies, but if you said “MeidasTouch” in the headline, I’d have no idea the implication of that shift, since I haven’t listened to either of the two.

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          You can, but clickbait rags want you to click to find out what they intentionally left out of the title.

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          If they just put the name I would have no idea who they are. Writing the full name plus “,an anti-Trump podcast” would be a really long title with extra info they get in the first sentence.

          Wanting to stop at the headline is a bad habit. Just click the article and complain if the name isn’t right there.

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            “Anti-Trump podcast MeidasTouch dethrones Rogan in charts”

            That’s two fewer words than the original headline. 🤷‍♂️

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            Be that as it may, we know that the majority of readers wouldn’t read past the title. Knowing this, NewsWeek still decided to not include the name of the anti-trump podcast which dethroned Joe Rogan’s podcast. I think this is the bias that they are referring to.

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      Wdym? It literally says the podcast name is “The MeidasTouch Podcast” in the first sentence.

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        Per the other comment, headlines. Internet dwellers read the headline to decide whether or not to read something. You can think of a headline as involuntary information injection.

        So Newsweek wants everyone to see Joe Rogan’s name but not MeidasTouch.

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    Why don’t they list MeidasTouch in the headline?

    Better title: “Pro-America podcast MeidasTouch dethrones shitty pro-donvict podcast in the charts”

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        I will say, before the election, i was watching them pretty hard. I dropped it for my own mental health after the election though. I wasn’t a huge fan of Ben Meiselas because he became more and more sensational but I really liked Michael Popoks legal commentary. I felt like Ben started shading into the tone and repetition patterns of the far right podcasters but either way, they both always had their facts straight and everything they said and predicted was backed by evidence and legal experience. Popok is a smart fuckin dude though.

        Also, I’d say they’re “pro democracy” as that’s the line they always pushed unless it changed after the election.

        If you want to ease into it just check out Popoks stuff as it’s way more objective. I learned so much about the legal/judicial system from him and it was all validated by other sources.

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    Just listened a bit. These guys deep dive quite a bit, but I hope that this bump is from people who are previous Trump voters that now realize how fucked they are by Trump and get angry.

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        He’s created that in large part because of the media environment around him. Many republicans were upset and outraged on Jan 6th until they heard the fox news, rogan, etc line

        Change the media consumption and a lot will follow from there. Changes to which media are more dominate are going to matter more than people think

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        Trump is a conman and excellent salesman.

        In a cult he could say whatever and they’d believe him. This did not work out well when he tried to get MAGA vaccinated with the vaccines “he” produced.

        Instead he floats everything under the rainbow and runs with whatever gets the most cheers.

        https://youtu.be/klYjLMJ4z3E?t=646 Timestamp 10:47 for a cult expert explaining it.

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      Do they actually do interviews with experts? Or is it just two dudes pretending to be experts and presenting (mis)information

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        Yes they do. They also interview a lot of the Democratic congress critters. The lawyer that represents Luigi has been a regular contributor to the Meidas Touch for the last year or so.

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        Jon Stewart’s podcast is also good if you want interviews with experts. He also gets far more nerdy and into the weeds in his podcast than he ever was allowed to on TV or streaming

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    Less than a month into the new administration, the rise of the left-leaning MeidasTouch to become the country’s most popular podcast indicates a potential shift in tone currently resonating with Americans.

    Is it actually Leftist or is it liberal? I’d welcome a number one Leftist show, but I don’t think most USA citizens are politically literate enough to know the difference. We’ve been brainwashed by decades of propaganda to think liberalism is synonymous with Leftist.

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      They self identify as progressive and it seems that they are, so definitely not liberals. I stopped clicking Brian Tyler Cohen videos though because he does clickbait bullshit like “trump gets NIGHTMARE legal news” or “trump campaign SUNK” and it ends up being some legal bullshit they have to re-file because they messed it up the first time, or something stupid like that. Seriously just scroll through his shorts. It’s awful.

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          Soft clickbait I don’t mind, but BTC’s titles are “the sky is falling” levels of bullshit. I didn’t even block his videos, I just stopped clicking and they completely fell out of my feed.

          It’s a shame because it’s not bad content, I’m just sick of clicking a video expecting some big news involving actual consequences for terrible people, only to be told they will get away with a finger wag at worst.

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      They specifically said “left-leaning” to stop people like you from asking stupid questions like that. Stop gatekeeping anti-fascism.

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        I don’t think you’re as familiar with the meaning of terms as you think. Some people call the NYT left-leaning. They absolutely are not. They are a liberal publication and that has a different meaning.

        This is what I meant when I said USA citizens have been corrupted by decades of propaganda. Conservative idiots genuinely believe socialism is about making people eat bugs as opposed to helping people out and doing things for their betterment. And liberals genuinely believe that they are Leftists. But go ahead and call my question stupid.

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        Can you imagine if every time someone pointed out the difference between Democrats & Republicans, we had to sit through endless comments of people speaking up to say things like “don’t gatekeep fascism, mom!!” or “not this moneybear twisted logic!!”?

        Liberalism and Leftism broadly disagree on their respective core economic tenants. They’re ideologically further apart than Democrats and Republicans. And yet, you struggle to comprehend them as distinct entities without getting upset and triggered… if you seriously consider it divisive to understand that diversity of opinion on the left is good and a sign of a healthy democracy, I don’t know what to tell you.

        You need to take a good long hard look at what you’re promoting here. Not everybody needs to think the same or adhere to exactly the same ideology in order to be deserving of respect and work together with others for common causes. We don’t need everyone to be grouped under one label for collective action and agreeable democratic reforms to take place. In fact, it’s important that we aren’t grouped that way… it’s detrimental to us all regardless of whether you’re liberal or left.

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            Of course. Anybody who disagrees with your personal narrow sliver of opinion must just be a Russian bot. /s

            Thank you for proving to every person reading that you’re only commenting in bad faith.

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        Leftists would care what you think about it if liberals hadn’t just spent a century killing and persecuting them.

        Being a leftist is not the same thing as being on your national left, cope.

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      leftist, almost always comes from right wing sources. in the usa there isnt a true political left.

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        This guy’s close. Tried watching it and it was hard. But then again I never tried Rogan as he seems like a turd. Maybe people just want loud obnoxious content that doesn’t teach you much… Guess it feels better then it being on the right wing nazi sphere…

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      We need to start calling ourselves something else. Liberal and Leftist isn’t doing us any favors and is keeping people alienated from messages that may otherwise reach them. Maybe Centrists?? The labels are keeping us divided, but Centrist is like saying you are a rational human, and I think many people consider themselves to be that. Need to have a more unifying “label”.

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        This will only lead to the workers’ cause being diluted. Leftism is socialism. It is anti capitalism. It is named in opposition to the right wing deliberately. The dichotomy exists for a reason. Our enemies are capitalists. They are the ruling class. Diluting our cause achieves nothing but losing revolutionary momentum.

        We need louder leftist voices. We need the messaging to get as far and wide as possible. The far right has been winning at this. They own the tech companies, the social media giants, they run the algorithms. We need to push people further and further off of those platforms and amplify leftist voices as loud as we can. We need more propaganda. We need more organization.

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    I was wondering why my dad texted me today to tell me George Soros was planning to fund anti Trump podcasts

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      crazy to me that he’s thinking the guy who might be funding anti Trump podcasts is a threat and not the richest man in the world who has agents infiltrating and collecting data on every government agency. Like, is dudes tin foil hat on right?

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      It is amazing how fast their propaganda machines work. They will anticipate breaking stories and provide bullshit lines of reasoning to discredit them before they are even widely shared.

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        They’ve had decades to finely tune the propaganda machine — utilizing surveillance capitalism, big data, and analytics — A/B testing their PsyOps campaigns in real-time.

        The whole Cambridge Analytica debacle occurred almost a decade ago, and every criminal involved went on to bigger and better criminal enterprises. Major political parties across western “democracies” were directly involved in treasonous disinformation campaigns against their own citizens — a multinational corporate oligarchy were directly involved — that’s why there were zero consequences…

        We’ve already been living in corporate dictatorships for a long time. We just didn’t know it yet.

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          We’ve already been living in corporate dictatorships for a long time. We just didn’t know it yet.

          Can’t really overstate that.

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          Everything you say is true. You can also trace this form of psychological warfare back to WWII. Propaganda got a real bad rap because of how it was used to manipulate people around the world. It was repackaged and renamed as public relations.

          This should have been the tipping point of governments rejecting propaganda and protecting their citizens from its effects. Instead they decided to use the best of psychology and sociology to continue to manipulate people. This is a basic violation of human rights so egregious that any government that allows it has betrayed its own people.

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    Sad to say, but it’s likely some of this bump they’re getting is TYT listeners/viewers leaving after Cenk and Anna’s latest spar with literally everyone near their orbit (and even losing some contributors). Many -oh so many- disaffected MSNBC viewers turned to non-traditional media after 2016, I cannot imagine how many might be leaving for more actually progressive sources after the recent election… but TYT has fumbled the bag here by both attacking other progressives AND doing shit like Charlie Kirk “debates” and interviews with Tucker Carlson.

    I really hope they turn the ship around, because going after MAGA die hards isn’t the answer. At any rate, Majority Report seems to be doing just fine so there’s that.

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      TYT telling the trans woman on staff that “Ana knows better than she does about how to help the trans community” was the final straw for me. You don’t get to silence a minority group by saying you’re doing it for their benefit.

      The subsequent doubling down of “actually we’re the victims here!” was just confirmation.

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        I don’t know these people but even just reading that already made me so tired. I’m so ready for everybody to forget we exist again.

        2020-2030 is really making 2000-2010 seem like paradise out here, which is something I never thought I’d say, as a trans woman who barely survived 2000-2010. 🙃

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      by both attacking other progressives AND doing shit like Charlie Kirk “debates” and interviews with Tucker Carlson.

      I’m sorry, they did what!? You must be kidding. I never felt the vibe was right with them: old, weird freaks asking for donations the whole show. But this is on another level…

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      You’re not wrong but any cultural shift like this is enough to cling to optimism. If/when the fast food catches up to Trump and he croaks JD Vance will be the one trying to defend these trash policies. Him (or anybody else) are not going to be as effective bullshit artists…

      LOOK HOW DESPERATE I AM FOR GOOD NEWS. LET ME HAVE THIS!!!

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        The Republicans aren’t looking for leadership or ideas, they’re looking for a strong man who beats his chest at “Soy boy rivals”

        Vance… aint that guy

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    womp womp, isnt that what the right wingers say… Only they originally said it about a story about seperating an “illegal imigrant” 10 year old girl with downs syndrome from her parents and keeping her in a cage, if I recall correctly. And then they refused to apologize for it.

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      I hate to have to inform you of this, but if you don’t like leftists, and moderate leftists, you’re in the wrong social media platform.

      We are sooner going to unite against class traitorism than we will tankies. Just an FYI we defederated from the tankies.

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        If you are trying to imply Democrats are leftists you are fucking delusional. Liberals don’t understand class unity and do everything they can to prevent it from happening.

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          Where in the fuck did I say anything like that? Stop projecting your own shit on to me. The Democrats are a corporatist right wing party that I only am willing to vote for because the opposition is literally fascist. Just because I am stuck in a broken system doesn’t mean that I support it in any way other than harm reduction. Try and look at my name again before you assume shit about me.

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        This comment here is why Lemmy will never get even a percent of reddit user numbers. Who gives a shit about that nonsense.

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    Hmm, one success speaks more to that one podcast’s popularity than a political shift.

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    What kind of cherry picked chart is this? Certainly this chart is not one that features YouTube or spotify. MeidasTouch is great and all but they aren’t even in the same league as Rogan in terms of listeners.