Summary
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, after he suggested her “Know Your Rights with ICE” webinar could be illegal.
The event informed immigrants about their rights during ICE raids. Homan claimed the webinar might impede immigration enforcement and said he was working with the DOJ to determine legal action.
AOC dismissed his remarks, stating, “Maybe he can learn to read. The Constitution would be a good place to start.”
She continues to oppose Trump’s immigration policies, including efforts to revoke birthright citizenship.
conservatism is a disease that untreated will often develop into fascism
Same for liberals
sAmE wItH liBrUlS
I would say conservatism unchallenged vigorously transforms into fascism.
AOC 2028
AOC for Speaker! Congress needs fixing too.
The Dems definitely need someone with a bite in that position. AOC would be a good choice, indeed.
Today, yeah, I’ll push my rep to vote for her in 2026. Goodness knows he won’t be…
Dems would need a majority first. Then they’d have to agree to get rid of Jeffries (who has only been Minority Leader at this point and unlikely to let go without a fight).
I swear, this site is full of people who have no fucking clue how US politics works in the real world.
I want a sandwich! Fuck, that would mean I would have to go get bread, cheese and other fixings. Guess I can’t have a sandwich because I know how making lunch works in the real world.
No, it would be more like “I want a sandwich, but I have no idea what a sandwich actually is”
More like Dems need to stop self sabotaging themselves for fear of not appeasing their corporate masters. Everytime a good dem candidate that is actually for the people gets popular they get ousted because they are actually “left” not center right.
I’d take democratic any day though compared to hard Reich maga shitheads
Let me tell you how this little game works in the real world.
Since you mention “Dems would need a majority first”. That is a large part of the act. These ‘progressives’ will criticise, oppose and more virtue signaling without doing anything. They propose bills knowing they will never pass. When they control everything, they simply stop proposing them. When they have to vote, they tow the party line. At least some eyes were opened when she endorsed Biden’s genocide. (Not the first time she defended US/zionist warcrimes OC) She will cry “concentration camps” when Trump opens child immigrant dentention facilities. But when Joe opens them, suddenly she calls them “influx facilities”.
When they control everything, they simply stop proposing them. When they have to vote, they tow the party line.
And this is based on…?
Right you just made it up.
Great way to win arguments, you answer your own questions with the answers that suits you.
She could be minority leader though
“I swear, this site is full of people who have no fucking clue how US politics works in the real world.”
My take away is that non-USians seem to understand politics better; generally. I know that’s a gross generalisation but the amount of US people who think “team blue” is both liberal and left wing is just sad…
Its true a lot of us arent the most politically educated, but that ones not an example. “Liberal” in an American context is usually referring to social liberalism, not economic. Using it in an economic sense doesnt make sense in a country where public healthcare is on the furthest left end of the overton window
But on the WORLD wide web nobody should default to one country’s erroneous understanding of a word.
1000%
i’m ready.
even have some (unofficial) campaign gear.
That took me entirely too long. I had to question why the hell you took a picture of your computer looking at this post. Presumably from your phone, which you presumably uploaded the picture from, instead of just taking a screenshot.
This is one of those rare examples that would’ve actually benefited from a red circle.
spoiler
It’s the “AOC” brand monitor.
I’m still lost, care to spell it out for me?
Look at the monitor brand. Took me a minute to catch it too
Thanks 😁
I don’t like genocide supporters. Or kids in jail. Or union- strike busters Warmongers and regime chance advocats.
Ideally sooner, but I support this. Hells yeah AOC!
LOL
I have a hunch she’ll be in prison before that happens.
You can run from Prison
It’s what Trump would do.
Fuck she’s cool
She’s fake AF. Larping as leftist.
You larp at being worthy of expressing an opinion.
Who tF asked you? I really don’t like hypocrite liars that do their little act, then vote for genocide, strike busting, kids in cages when the fascist light party of which she is part of does it. Go cry somewhere else. I will shit on this despicable larper any chance I get. Maybe some people, unlike yourself with your head up your ass, will learn something.
Larper? One of the few people ive seen with the balls to speak up to power. Congress should be taking notes
Exactly: speak Talk the talk, not walk the walk
Are you high?
Who tF asked you?
First day online? You see, when you post on an open forum, you are implicitly asking anyone who bothers to read. Confusing I know, but you’ll figure it out in no time.
Thought you were Belgian? Why are you weighing in on american politics? 🤔
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How can the “free speech” party so consistently get it wrong when it comes to the First Amendment?
“the law only applies when and where and how we say it does”
Free speech is a code for hate speech. It really is that simple.
Yeah it’s “I want people to stop acting like I’m a jerk when I say mean things”, “but I also want them to not be able to say mean things about me, cuz that isn’t fair to me”. And yes, it should sound like a toddler having a temper tantrum. Including a complete misunderstanding of the entire concept of fairness.
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
source: https://crookedtimber.org/2018/03/21/liberals-against-progressives/#comment-729288
i don’t necessarily agree with the entirety of the comment but it is an interesting one to read nonetheless. the last sentence is also very quotable:
The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.
Ahh…see…there’s the rub…your answer is literally the first word of the first amendment.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Congress ain’t doing shit. Executive unitary theory means the Constitution is about as legally binding as a Dear Abby letter.
She needs to keep going. She needs to speak to them the same way they speak to everyone else. She needs to use every bit of her position to mother fuck these cowards at every turn. Call them out, and show their ignorance every single fucking time and in every single fucking forum.
She needs to demand her coworkers do the same. She needs to shame them when they don’t or when they compromise. The time for pleasantries is long past.
If she does, others will follow, but it will be dangerous, so I understand if she just keeps doing what she is doing. It is at least miles more than most of them.
Bla bla bla, man shouts at clouds, but no one listens.
You’re right. She’s the only one or at most one of less than a handful of Democrats that are actually DOING something with their platform to resist the fascists, rather than just doing rousing speeches for the cameras, fundraising emails and fuckall else.
If the Dem leadership were more like her, even if they retained the same crappy Neoliberal policy positions, things would never have gotten anywhere near this bad in the first place.
It’s AOC with the steel chair!
My god, the pressure she is experiencing right now…
She and Bernie are carrying the entire weight of the opposition party and therefore the future of the country. I don’t envy them.
I stand with them
Politically I’m pretty moderate but I have a huge amount of respect for AOC and the way she spurs debate and brings important issues into focus.
So you are saying her positions are appealing to moderates?
You’d have to poll moderates to make that claim. Personally, I’d want to go through policy by policy to see what I support.
What happened to the immigrants they were hauling off to Guantánamo Bay? Has there been an update on that?
I’ve always wonder why the US uses a title from Imperial Russia to refer to the heads of special activity like drug czar and border czar. No seriously, any ideas why?
It’s a term that indicates a leader, and its origins are thousands of years before imperial Russia.
It’s a derivative of the Latin “Caesar”, and many cultures have used the term (or its derivatives) to indicate a leader. Pre-Weimar Germany was led by the Kaiser, a German adaptation of the title.
Right, but its specifically a slavic/russian derivation of the word ceasar.
It’s also the shortest and most easily recognizable, which is most likely why it caught on. The fact that it’s a Russian/Slavic derivative is probably just coincidence.
All because of Julie’s parents….
This is relatively new, it started with Obama I believe. It was sort of a joke that went non-ironic at some point.
No it started under Bush Jr. with the Drug Czar position.
That’s right, I remember that now…
Well before that. I was going to say Reagan, but that’s wrong too
Damn, I wasn’t aware of that at all. The war on drugs really fucked this country up.
It’s an unofficial title given to those empowered to make broad decisions for US, UK, and even Canadian policy.
still weird, and still tied to a bloodstained legacy for many americans of eastern european legacy
That’s part of the reason. It used to be done as a reminder to use the power responsibly.
In the US, it has somehow morphed into something more literal.
I don’t disagree.
It’s one of those projecting things the conservatives like to do. It’s stupid, and needs to stop imo.
I always assumed it was derogatory because I only heard it used on Fox News* in reference to Democratic cabinet members.
*Not watching it voluntarily, my idiot parent has hearing loss and has the TV on full volume whenever I visit. The Fox logo is literally burned into the TV.
don’t start a war of words with someone infinitely more intelligent than you are, mr homan.
His name sounds like he’s a ferengi from star trek. “Listen here, female hoo-man”. Kinda makes sense, they are like ferengi.
Likely can’t read the Constitution because they can’t read cursive.
MAGA, “what is this, Arabic? This is America! Write in English.”
I hate the snidey childish way politicians talk.
Yeah repubs love it though
yeah what a shitty theater it all is.
“on her X social media account” “hosted on her Facebook page.”
This person is part of the establishment.
I’ve seen her on Tic Tok too, she’s going to where the people are.
Yes she’s going where the votes are, that’s what politicians do.
Good? People voting for things they want? did you just describe democracy?
Right? Politicians participating in politics?? Say it ain’t so!
So your comment could be reduced to “politician is politician”, nice.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but for instance If all my local justice and climate groups moved to masto they would effectively cease to exist.
Would love it if people with the capability would post to both, though.
It’s possible that you’re right. It’s also possible that people would follow those groups to Mastodon.
It’s very possible that people would follow AOC to Mastodon as well. There’s no reason she can’t post on Mastodon as well and see how it goes.
Is it possible, yes. Is it likely? Eeehhh…
Every serious group already moved to mastodon and we are talking on lemmy. She has million of followers already and isn’t even trying, she’s part of the establishment.
Social media contributes to the polarization of public discourse and should absolutely be boycotted. However, this polarization manifests in various ways, and your comment is a good example of this. When everything becomes a purity test, we fall into extremism. To counter the rise of fascism, you must be willing to unite with those who do not share your opinions.
you must be willing to unite with those who do not share your opinions.
To counter the rise of fascism you don’t use the private social media of a guy who does the nazi salute in public.
So they are not even on mastodon?
Apparently not
It was on BlueSky.
So he was the cool guy as Obama’s border czar, but the bad guy when keeping the same policies under Trump?
He wasn’t in command of ICE under Obama. He was just commended for being a good employee under Obama. Trump made him a “border czar” (whatever the fuck that means). He apparently chaffed under the Obama administration’s more lax policies when it came to border security and is much happier under Trump. Clearly to the detriment of everyone who isn’t white.
maybe he got brain worms too
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Okay man even for a troll this is just weak. Try harder.
uwotm8
Yeah, fuck off junior.
Swing and a miss