• Kalkarino@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    I thought my dad would have come around by now with everything going on. Last night he was gloating about how much work is getting done in the White House and how everything’s about to get a lot cheaper.

    Insanity.

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      Then, you should challenge him and make him set a deadline for when everything is supposed to be a lot cheaper. When people starts to get sidetracked from thinking critically, that’s when you need to make them set an ultimatum that either forces them to think critically, or make them set their own limit that you can then point back to later.

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        4 days ago

        That only works for people who haven’t taught themselves to ignore constant cognitive dissonance.

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      3 days ago

      Ask your dad why the GOP needs to raise the Debt Ceiling by $4 Trillion in their budget bill, and how many of the now dozens of lawsuits Trump might win based on his performance in 2020 when he lost almost every single court case, even when Trump appointed the judges himself.

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        3 days ago

        I tried that with someone on facebook. They retreated back to “we have to get federal spending under control.” Maybe so, but this group isn’t doing that.

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          3 days ago

          And we do. Only people unaware of the problem aren’t worked about it.

          But these people seem unable to parse tough choices and bad choices.

    • TooManyFoods@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      I mean, that’s the real trump derangement syndrome. People who are outside of reality because of their support of the man.

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      4 days ago

      Same with my Mom. I told her “yeah, Mussolini did a good job making the trains run on time”. She never responded.

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      3 days ago

      I can’t wait to talk to my parents. Lifelong republicans (though not specifically trump fans, just voting R), so it’s extremely likely they voted for this.

      I’m a federal employee. They voted to put my job (and my wife’s job) in jeopardy. They voted for this. They voted to hurt us.

    • lightsblinken@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      make it real for your dad - every chance you get, capture the price of a few things and chart it out over time… actual real evidence that you collected yourself is harder to refute than a graph produced by anonymous sources online.

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      4 days ago

      His only concern is himself, he thinks he’ll benefit so everyone else can suffer as far as he is concerned. This is the broad motivation of the entire movement. As if America first didn’t make it obvious enough, it was really “me first”. What they don’t understand is how the me in that is entirely relative and they quickly become expendable.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        maybe if you explain to him the cause of the great depression being isolationist economic policy hitting everyone really hard, meanwhile japan with its keynesian policy managed to do pretty well, even in the face of global economic downturn.

        Some people find facts more reasonable, ironically, even if they will cognitively dissonant themselves from them.