Not at all what I’m saying. Just saying that you’re using rapist’s logic by blaming the assaulted for the assaulter’s actions, and I think that’s a pretty shitty thing to do, even if they drive an rusty nazimobile.
If a woman wears a short dress to feel pretty that is not an invitation for someone to assault them.
If someone buys a vehicle that is a know disaster, from a guy who can’t stop lying and cheating, and then makes it shiny gold to really drive home that they love their nazi-built pile of rolling garbage and then complains that people are expressing their displeasure in said person’s support of the person who is actively doing things that are killing/will kill people well buddy they can absolutely go fuck themselves.
The basic mechanism is similar, but if you can’t see the ten mile wide gap between those two scenarios I’m not really sure how to explain it to you.
Fuck Musk, fuck fascists, and fuck anyone who buys Tesla during all this garbage(some people before may, or may not, get a pass but I mean come on).
No I’m not, and no I won’t. I’m talking about harassing the driver. I compared defending that behavior to a rapist’s victim-blaming mindset. I’ve been very clear about that.
I’m not trying to put words in your mouth, not sure why you’re trying it with me, though.
You should quit while you are behind. I’m telling you that you should shut the fuck up because you are making a fool of yourself. It is advice, don’t be a clown.
You can have my upvote, but commenting here risks the echo chamber that is Lemmy to attack this comment too.
This place is perfectly OK stooping as low as the “other side”. Our violence is justified, theirs is not. Under no circumstance is the owner of that Cybertruck owned by someone that LOVES EV’s and just loves its looks/capabilities. They absolutely must have bought it because they support Nazi’s, no other reason. Everyone else here is virtuously perfect.
So each ‘side’ of America keeps stepping lower, justifying it by the previous act bringing us deeper into this hell we’re building in real time.
For the record, Elon can go f%$k himself, but under no circumstances am I going to inflict violence/anger on a random AMERICAN going about their day in their stupid Cybertruck.
If they’re just an EV enthusiast, they would have bought a good EV that doesn’t crash itself, lock you inside, and rust out from a little morning dew. A Rivian pickup still costs less than a Swasticar and functions a lot better.
This was a personal choice that these drivers made when they bought their truck, and they get to live with the consequences. Your argument has more holes than swiss cheese.
Our violence is justified…
Please point me to a news source that reported actual physical violence to a swasticar driver. All I’ve seen is light vandalism at best.
If you scroll down to the list of other EV trucks, the Cybertruck is the most expensive after the Hummer, which, no shit that’s ridiculously overpriced like all Hummers. That’s not an endorsement.
Seems a question you’d have to ask the person that bought it, not me.
I think everything about them is stupid. EVs in general do not fit my use case.
I do track days / time trials in my fun car
I tow a boat and haul stuff with my truck (sometimes hundreds of miles). I guess if I could have a third commuting car a EV might work, but I use my motorcycle for that whenever possible.
I was, in fact, expressing how silly it is for someone to assume the Cybertruck owner was a Nazi or wanting to suck off Elon. That it couldn’t possibly be owned by someone that loves EVs or the Cybertruck for their own reasons not within the narrow narrative associated with someone that would purchase such a vehicle assumed in this thread.
Yes, I read what you wrote. You came up with an explanation for why someone would do that. Then you acted like it wasn’t your explanation. Now you’re just outright refusing to back up what you said.
Damn straight, violence against Nazis is justified when violence against egalitarian people is not! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you think defending against hate is wrong?
So threatening someone is ok because of the vehicle they drive?
Don’t buy a car to attract attention and then complain it’s not the attention you wanted.
“Did you see what she was
wearingdriving? Totally asking for it.”Won’t somebody think of the Musk fanboys?!
Not at all what I’m saying. Just saying that you’re using rapist’s logic by blaming the assaulted for the assaulter’s actions, and I think that’s a pretty shitty thing to do, even if they drive an rusty nazimobile.
If a woman wears a short dress to feel pretty that is not an invitation for someone to assault them.
If someone buys a vehicle that is a know disaster, from a guy who can’t stop lying and cheating, and then makes it shiny gold to really drive home that they love their nazi-built pile of rolling garbage and then complains that people are expressing their displeasure in said person’s support of the person who is actively doing things that are killing/will kill people well buddy they can absolutely go fuck themselves.
The basic mechanism is similar, but if you can’t see the ten mile wide gap between those two scenarios I’m not really sure how to explain it to you.
Fuck Musk, fuck fascists, and fuck anyone who buys Tesla during all this garbage(some people before may, or may not, get a pass but I mean come on).
Shiny gold with an ad for a business complete with QR code on the back. That makes it even worse to me.
Not sure why you are being so heavily downvoted. This is a reasonable contribution to the conversation, even if people disagree it.
You think people making fun of a shitty car is comparable to rape?
I’m not talking about making fun of the shitty car, I’m talking threatening and harassing the driver.
No, you’re talking about rape when you should really shut the fuck up.
Edit - this user has harassed me off site. He has been reported to the admins.
No I’m not, and no I won’t. I’m talking about harassing the driver. I compared defending that behavior to a rapist’s victim-blaming mindset. I’ve been very clear about that.
I’m not trying to put words in your mouth, not sure why you’re trying it with me, though.
You should quit while you are behind. I’m telling you that you should shut the fuck up because you are making a fool of yourself. It is advice, don’t be a clown.
If you don’t have anything to add to the discussion, you don’t have to comment. Either make your point - should you have one - or move on.
Did you see the nazi uniform that guy was wearing? He was asking for it.
Was she wearing a swastika? If yes, she’s asking for a punch in the face. Same applies to driving one.
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Wow that is some Olympic level mental gymnastics, congratulations.
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Lol oh yeah I missed the context
Yes. 😘
You can have my upvote, but commenting here risks the echo chamber that is Lemmy to attack this comment too.
This place is perfectly OK stooping as low as the “other side”. Our violence is justified, theirs is not. Under no circumstance is the owner of that Cybertruck owned by someone that LOVES EV’s and just loves its looks/capabilities. They absolutely must have bought it because they support Nazi’s, no other reason. Everyone else here is virtuously perfect.
So each ‘side’ of America keeps stepping lower, justifying it by the previous act bringing us deeper into this hell we’re building in real time.
For the record, Elon can go f%$k himself, but under no circumstances am I going to inflict violence/anger on a random AMERICAN going about their day in their stupid Cybertruck.
If they’re just an EV enthusiast, they would have bought a good EV that doesn’t crash itself, lock you inside, and rust out from a little morning dew. A Rivian pickup still costs less than a Swasticar and functions a lot better.
This was a personal choice that these drivers made when they bought their truck, and they get to live with the consequences. Your argument has more holes than swiss cheese.
Please point me to a news source that reported actual physical violence to a swasticar driver. All I’ve seen is light vandalism at best.
Light vandalism is a good start. Violence against Nazis IS justified - it’s the only language they speak, so be sure to communicate loud and clear.
Your argument is bad, and you should feel bad. 🤦🏼♂️
How many logical fallacies can you spot, kids?
If you loved EVs, why on Earth would you get a Cybertruck when there are legitimately good EV trucks out there?
https://www.caranddriver.com/rivian/r1t
If you scroll down to the list of other EV trucks, the Cybertruck is the most expensive after the Hummer, which, no shit that’s ridiculously overpriced like all Hummers. That’s not an endorsement.
Seems a question you’d have to ask the person that bought it, not me.
I think everything about them is stupid. EVs in general do not fit my use case.
I do track days / time trials in my fun car I tow a boat and haul stuff with my truck (sometimes hundreds of miles). I guess if I could have a third commuting car a EV might work, but I use my motorcycle for that whenever possible.
You’re the one who came up with the explanation that it’s about loving EVs, not the person who bough it. So I’m asking you.
Reread what I originally wrote…
I was, in fact, expressing how silly it is for someone to assume the Cybertruck owner was a Nazi or wanting to suck off Elon. That it couldn’t possibly be owned by someone that loves EVs or the Cybertruck for their own reasons not within the narrow narrative associated with someone that would purchase such a vehicle assumed in this thread.
That’s all the more effort I’m putting into this.
Yes, I read what you wrote. You came up with an explanation for why someone would do that. Then you acted like it wasn’t your explanation. Now you’re just outright refusing to back up what you said.
It’s not a good look.
Fuck off with the bullshit moral equivalence.
Damn straight, violence against Nazis is justified when violence against egalitarian people is not! What the fuck is wrong with you, that you think defending against hate is wrong?
Dude he bought a truck and it’s a little tacky. Settle down…
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I think your reply got attached to the wrong comment.
Oops, yes it did. Thank you.
The word for people who support Nazis is “Nazi”. Yes, threatening Nazis is okay.
Literal Nazis should not feel safe stepping outside
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Absolutely.
No, but I’ll still enjoy every article where they complain about it.