I surely didn’t. I don’t know what they think Harris would have done. Ukraine was not making progress with the help Biden was giving them and Harris did not indicate that she would change anything in regards to her policy on Ukraine from Biden. So this deal was inevitable unless there was a dramatic increase of what Harris or other western countries were prepared to give them, which I see no evidence that they would have done this.
As I always say, “If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.”
I’ve also consistently held a similar position. It’s hard to imagine the conflict going on another 4 years (or a sudden and complete turnaround) regardless of who got elected.
Verifying claims is just due diligence, treating requests for evidence as “being a weird debate bro” is a good way to wind up in a circlejerk completely divorced from reality.
So we went from “no, trump would never do that” to “Harris would have done it anyway”?
Did anyone around here actually say that?
Yes, I saw it frequently from people who supported trump and Ukraine before the election.
Do you have a link or a username?
Look at Jake Broe channel before the election, as it also has many pro Ukraine trump supporters. He even mentioned multiple times about those claims.
Allow me to reiterate: Did anyone around here actually say that?
I have no doubt you can find people saying whatever on other platforms, but it’s not really relevant if nobody here agrees with them.
I surely didn’t. I don’t know what they think Harris would have done. Ukraine was not making progress with the help Biden was giving them and Harris did not indicate that she would change anything in regards to her policy on Ukraine from Biden. So this deal was inevitable unless there was a dramatic increase of what Harris or other western countries were prepared to give them, which I see no evidence that they would have done this.
As I always say, “If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.”
I’ve also consistently held a similar position. It’s hard to imagine the conflict going on another 4 years (or a sudden and complete turnaround) regardless of who got elected.
Or just not a weird debate bro.
Verifying claims is just due diligence, treating requests for evidence as “being a weird debate bro” is a good way to wind up in a circlejerk completely divorced from reality.