• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    17 hours ago

    I already explained why I don’t care to visit MeanwhileOnGrad, it just serves as an outlet for the most obsessed anticommunists to witch-hunt and jeer using out of context screenshots, where the mods complain about “wokeness” and “DEI.”

    To be clear, jlai.lu was upset at an out-of-context clipping and chose to hate on Algerians, when it’s very clear that France is not clean of colonial attitudes. From Macron:

    “I think that they forgot to say ‘thank you’. It does not matter, it will come with time,” Mr Macron said, in a speech to French ambassadors on Jan 6.

    “We did the right thing,” he said of the military deployment, adding that “none” of the states of the Sahel region would be “sovereign” today without that intervention.

    This then turned to some jlai.lu users accusing Hexbear users of being fascists and using ableist terms like “MAGAt*rd” that some jlai.lu users walked back after being called out on it, but the damage was done and understandably Hexbear came back to answer such accusations.

    It’s extremely condescending to think of yourself as some “helper.” This attitude, plus the intention to shame users into apologizing for what you percieve as injustices, will always get in the way of you actually trying to talk to people and get them to see your way. It’s chauvanism.

    • Snoopy@peculiar.florist
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      15 hours ago

      @Cowbee
      Dunno where to start. Yes and the mod team blame the user for it. And then it excalated quickly. Our admin was fired up and played at your own game.

      You did exactly the same thing. Here is the post you agreed on :
      jlai.lu/pictrs/image/0285ede7-7d7e-4082-b8f2-df56bc748649.png?format=webp

      Well, the quote isn’t enough. France is a complex polical landscape.

      Jlailu ≠ France.
      Jlailu ≠ Macron.

      There are also belgians and right now few Swiss joined us. Jlai.lu is a very very very very small part of r/france. The biggest french comnunities on the fedi are on Mastodon. Futhermore most french users don’t use reddit, masto, lemmy but facebook, tiktok…we are a very very small part.

      Macron was elected on the second tour because it was the only option left to block the far right movement. Most of leftist had no choice to vote again Macron knowing well what he will do. We endure him. Futhermore white vote + abstention was around 28%.

      Yes, France is a colonial country. You can add Mayotte. Macron said racist thing. And Attal reported them as he is preparing 2027 election. Attal is not doing it out of interest.

      Bolloré has bought various media and slowly change France political landscape to the far right movement as Vladimir Poutine did. Here is a study from the CNRS, about the Kremlin in France, in english :
      hal-emse.ccsd.cnrs.fr/CURIE/hal-04629585v4

      The point you omit with your quote on Macron is : what was our reaction to Macron on jlai.lu ? On the fediverse ?

      it’s a weird logic. Let’s do as you wrote : imagine you live in America, then i quote Trump. Let’s take a break.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        15 hours ago

        My point is that jlai.lu took comments from victims of colonialism against France out of context, called them fascists, then whined about it. Meanwhile you are attempting to intimidate, again, despite being told that it’s bad form. Nobody is going to agree with you if you continue to act in chauvanistic manners.