ID: ally @missmayn posted: “the democrats were more energized and organized against campus protests than the current authoritarian takeover.”

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      Nobody was blaming anyone in the post, just making an observation.

      But yes the first step in growth is realizing your mistakes and they refuse to do that. Fascism depends entirely on lazy, uninvolved and conflict averse people. Nowhere in the world has fascism ever come to power without the support of “centrists”. The US democratic party is a party of centrists with no goals and no interest in actually doing anything. They have created the perfect breeding ground for a fascist takeover.

      I have posted it before and i will post it again, the democratic party is not free of blame. They cant just lean back and blame everything on Trump or Musk or voters.

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        Curious how that graphic doesn’t say Left and Right on the horizontal scale but rather Liberal and Conservative, whilst the title describes it as showing that the Democrats have moved to the Left which is quite a different thing from Liberal.

        It’s almost as if that’s a piece of propaganda meant to deceive readers…

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        The US democratic party is a party of centrists with no goals

        That’s just not true. The democratic party is a coalition group with a great variety of goals that don’t form a coherent ideal. You have AOC who’s a either a social democrat saying she’s a democratic socialist or a democratic socialist who’s hiding her true ideals behind policies that advance her goals but are far easier to sell than what she really wants. Then you have obvious fascists who are clearly there only to enable the wealthy. Aside from them you have the people who believe that the democratic process is sacrosanct and above defiance even in the face of someone obviously attempting to subvert it.

        Aside from that, on average the Democrats prefer action against climate change, that the rights of minorities be protected, and are less anti-worker than the GOP. These are real differences that matter. There’s no such thing as “centrism” and pretending otherwise is an amazing way to excuse not supporting the largest institution that will lock your worst enemies out of power, even if they don’t do anything.

        Furthermore, even if the DNC literally never got anything done (which, to be clear, they have done good things that support workers like favorable rules for Unions)that would be great for us, because it’d mean their feckless ineffectual leadership would give us plenty of room to build parallel institutions, educate, and bring others around to our ways of thinking. When the GOP is in charge that becomes harder and it’s more dangerous for everyone involved.

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          Those things only are allowed because without them, a worker revolt would have obliterated those favoring under regulated Capitalistism.

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            And I bet that during all that time and unlike on Liberalism, when it comes to Economic Equality and Work vs Capital they kept moving to the Right almost as fast as the Republicans.

            Illustrating the theory that the Democrats have not moved to the Right with a graphic about how they moved on Liberalism is like claiming improving harvests of oranges by showing the numbers for apples.