Timeline:
Jan 20 - Federal Aviation Administration Director fired.
Jan. 21 - Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
Jan. 22 - Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
Jan. 28 - Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
Jan. 29 - first American mid-air collision in 16 years
By golly, Trump is actually correct. Someone with severe intellectual disabilities did fuck us over.
It’s mind boggling anyone would even try to dismantle the FAA- they’re one of the most boring organizations out there and their #1 concern is safety. There’s even tons of money to be made while worrying about safety, so it is so odd to do this. Trying to reduce air traffic controllers is an insane idea in general- without them everyone’s flying blind. It’s gonna take decades to figure out all the damage this moron has done just like with Reagan
And it’s one of the most useful government offices if you’re a billionaire who travels by plane everywhere. Plebs who have to drive everywhere are a lot less affected by overworked, overstressed, underpaid ATCs than guys like him.
Well thanks to the ElonJet guy they know where all the important planes are… Who needs flight control when you have xcom /s
He’s going to use this as an excuse to repeal the Americans with Disabilities Act. I’m calling it.
Nostradamus [Belle] two days ago:
“If they keep the details quiet [of the recent closed-door meeting], you’ll be able to tell what they’re going after [in the budget] by listening to their rhetoric”.
“They’ll start scapegoating a demographic, to try and prime the [voter] base to accept their cuts.”
(e.g.) “If they start talking about able-bodied people, it’s Medicaid.”
it’s in project 2025
It’s ALL fucking in there. Every day since Jan 20 is in there.
So many rascal driving MAGAots are about to have their face eaten.
Sucks it will affect decent folks.
Sounds like a good description of the guy who just tried to fire the entire FAA.
He might have been looking in a mirror when thinking of what kind of demographic to blame
The best take
“We may never find out what caused this terrible tragedy, but rest assured that a minority was involved.”
I agree with trumps sentiment. Old, fat, stupid, senile people should not be in positions that need to make critical decisions.
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This would be more fun if you were at least clever.
So he’s accepting personal responsibility?
I’m not suggesting he will accept it willingly, we’ll have to force it on him, as he is convicted.
As an autistic person (and no, we don’t throw Nazi Salutes as stimming…) I honest to fucking god am so numbed by this guy’s bullshit that it is kinda incredible.
All I could think of is how the mentally disabled were the first victims of the holocaust in WW2. Starting in 1939 around the time of the invasion of Poland.
The accident is 100% on Elon Musk and Trump. They fired the FAA safety officials and never replaced them, in addition to cutting massive amounts of funding and personnel that made an accident like this inevitable.
Fuck him. Fuck him HARD.
I just want to point out that
Trump announced sweeping personnel changes, including a hiring freeze. But aviation experts said Trump had done little that could have precipitated the crash between a commercial jet from Wichita, Kansas, and a military Black Hawk helicopter. There was simply too little time – less than 10 days after Trump was sworn in – for any of his broadly worded executive orders to have had an effect, experts said.
He is still an asshole, but the firing had, apparently, as much to do with the crash as DAI programms: nothing at all.
He’s blaming everything on DEI and the democrats and black people and the mentally disability (even though he very likely has dyslexia, which might explain why people speculate that he is functionally illiterate). Don’t let him have it.
And he’s an idiot for doing so. Non the less, if experts who know more about the inner workings say that him firing people had nothing to do with it then I will trust them on it.
I know it makes a nice narrative: Trump blames DAI but is actually the one to blame. But if that narrative doesn’t hold up to reality then i think we shouldn’t push it forward.
It’s bad enoth that he uses the death of humans to scream about his wired anti DAI point. He doesn’t need to be responsible for the crash in order to criticise that.
I think I will blame Trump instead. He was dictator on day one. How could the Orange Turd let this happen!
He caused this to happen with his various actions of enshitifying the quality of government.
Its like he goes out of his way to project.
Have you ever noticed how absolutely fixated this guy is on assigning people mental issues?
I am officially upgrading that from 🤔 to Ominous.
That might indicate that he recently was informed that he has dementia and that it’s incurable.
Or maybe he wants all his political opponents and critics declared insane so he can have them tortured with outdated treatments like lobotomies and endless rounds of ECT.
So no idea of really how the crash happened, don’t have black boxes yet. But somehow knows it was dei. Right.
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PAT25(?) announced that they have a visual on the CRJ. ATC instructed them to maintain visual separation and then proceed behind the CRJ. They didn’t. No maydays, no panpans.
It’s pilot deviation or pilot error.
What would you be interested in with the black box? If the TAWS warned the CRJ pilots?
Black box is woke dei hire.
wouldn’t have happened if white box.
Of course. Had it been a white box, it would have avoided this crash, we all know that!
/s
You missed an even better joke with white hawk helicopter.
Looks more like rainbow colored to me.
Black Box in a black hawk. I mean come on
The ATC queries them multiple times if they have visual on the CRJ and they repeatedly respond in the affirmative.
also the published helicopter corridor has them maintain a ceiling of 200 feet, they were well above 350 at the time of the collision.
It’s either pilot negligence or instrument failure.
also TCAS is inactive below
800900 feet.It’s pilot error or deviation. You have the CRJ in sight. You are responsible for maintaining visual separation. Full stop. Instrument failure does not apply to your eyes.
Wouldn’t that be TCAS?
You right. Helicopters aren’t terrain. My bad
TCAS doesn’t give resolution advisories (alerts that say to climb or descend to avoid traffic) below 1000’. It does have a warning noise still, but from my understanding it’s common for it to go off on approach due to all the other aircraft around and on the ground at the airport, so it may have been ignored.
He doesn’t need evidence he has “common sense”
Actual quote from the press conference
Due to his barren mental landscape, he can only rant about two or three things in a given month.
Oh hey, we’re headed towards useless eaters rhetoric really quickly
If you dont have a net worth that’s 6 figures minimum, or come from a nice family with a background of being an american “patriot” or otherwise having come from a not-shithole country. then you’re a useless eater.
“Useless eaters” are a term with a specific history of explicit oppression of the disabled (usually ablism is merely implicit).
Im aware. Im re-using the term with 21st century moron-think
I have literally heard strikingly similar arguments to the “useless eaters” rhetoric in refernece to everything from housing, jobs, and even f’ing gadgets.
have heard maniacs say “we gotta have a depopulation if we’re gonna be able to continue affording our quality of life”
He’s talking about himself
Please bring another slander lawsuit against him
yeah, he is god emperor immune… that’s a waste of time
At the very least it’s another fact that will join him down into history. It’s not enough that he’s the worst president ever, we can tank his stats so no one ever comes close
So he blames himself? Refreshing change of pace there.
There is a good chance this was caused in large part by Trump and his enshitification efforts. Right now the entire federal workforce is demoralized by various actions of Traitorapist Trump, degrading the quality of government across all levels. Air traffic controllers are part of the federal workforce. They were also short staffed, which in itself was likely cause by the poor morale. Blaming the hiring of minorities makes no sense given that a big part of the problem was not enough staff.
Trump knows this and knows that other people will make that connection too, and so him blaming this on DEI was his way of deflect the blame away from his rapid enshitification of government.
You killed 67 people, and it’s only been a month of your “presidency.”
A month? 10 days, mate. Months have around 30 days, so he still has time to raise that number.
Holy hell it’s only been 10 days
These 10 days have been the longest decade of my life.
Cue in captain america’s gif.
Trump is America’s Asshole.
4 more years
Not if he gets that 3rd term…
Oh joy! /s
I only said month because even when he wasn’t president yet, they were already making moves like he was. But you are correct it’s ONLY been 10 fucking days.
One mooch
Think of all the covid deaths, place responsibility where it belongs, right in his lap. 1000 deaths on average per week, I don’t have the long covid disabilities numbers ‘off the top of my head’, but they are even more.
As much as Trump is absolutely terrible, Biden was equally responsible for the large number of COVID deaths. His administration made the CDC completely abandon masking, ventilation, and other preventative guidance, almost completely abandon or hide COVID statistics, and he also said that the pandemic was “over”. Credit both of them, a pair of terrible presidents.
No he wasn’t. You don’t blame the guy who gets on the train after it was allowed to get up to speed and run out of control, for not being able to stop it fast enough.
You got a little bit of a point. Even if “equally” may be an exaggeration, you can certainly blame Biden for essentially dropping the push for masking, ventilation, vaccinations, and reporting of COVID. I do and always will. Like I said, both of them sucked regarding COVID.
“Equally responsible.” You’re out of your mind. 1 million COVID deaths under Trump. What kind of numbers you got for Biden?
Our rating: False
The post overstates the number of COVID-19 deaths reported in the U.S. during Trump’s presidency. At the time Trump left office in January 2021, the death toll had surpassed 400,000, according to multiple health organizations. The U.S. marked 1 million COVID-19 deaths in May 2022.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States
Deaths 1,212,505[3] (reported) 1,197,470 (CDC estimate)[6]
That means that about twice as many people in the US died from COVID under Biden’s administration than under Trump’s (1.2 million minus 400,000 = 800,000.
Granted, Biden had a lot longer time dealing with the pandemic than Trump did, but this was all just to point out that Biden ALSO sucked in his handling of COVID.
Trump’s entire handling of the pandemic including telling his cult members not to respect the advice of professionals continued to kill people until we hit 1 million. That’s roughly four months into Biden’s presidency. You can’t lay any of that on Biden.
What effects do you think Biden telling the CDC to stop pushing for masking, ventilation, vaccination, and reporting on COVID, and then telling the country that the pandemic was over had on COVID deaths?
Like I said, yes, Trump did a uniquely terrible job handling COVID (except for project warp speed to push for ultra-fast development of vaccines), but it’s flabbergasting to see people speak as if Biden did nothing wrong in his own handling of the pandemic.
I’m not saying he was perfect. I’m saying the ideas pushed by Trump, Qanon, and other far right and conspiracy theory peddlers had already done their damage. By the time Biden took office, everyone had long ago sided with science or conspiracies. I doubt he convinced very many people one way or the other.
And also Trump’s state-level lackeys were deliberately under-reporting covid deaths.
Ok, I somewhat agree - I think under-reporting happened under both sides, even if Republicans may have done more of it, because both sides had some of the same incentives to do it.
But that’s beside the point. I’m just trying to get people to admit that Biden also did a bad job in handling the pandemic, in the interest of truth and acuracy, but I see that that’s never going to happen with some people here (not directing this last sentence at you futatorius, but just in general with the people who have replied so far and those who downvoted me).
I hate Trump as much as anyone else here, but I fail to see how his FAA firings cause this accident. Can you explain how this is his fault?
edit: Thanks for the downvotes assuming I’m a sealion, just because I asked a question.
Trump loves to blame people for things they have no direct control over, like blaming Boden for the cost of eggs, while taking credit for anything positive that happens while he is in office that had nothing to do with him.
I assumed OP was mocking that attitude, but could be wrong.
That article says that they have been dealing with staffing issues for some time.
And you don’t think the firing of even more employees didn’t have an effect?
Not in that incident, no. It may affect the future, but that incident seemed to be pilot error according to the ATC recordings.
That’s some stupid fucking horseshit. It would be nearly impossible to fire a large part of an organization without a noticeable effect. Here we have fatal evidence of that. Yeah people assume you’re coming in bad faith because how could we not?
I’m all for making Trump look bad, so is you feel that this will damage him, I’m in. I just want to see some evidence or an ATC that would agree.
Trump plays to the American egregor of the CEO as Kingmaker. Literally proposes frequently running the USA as a business.
When you are the CEO the responsibility of the entire thing lies with you.
Now I don’t agree with Trump, but it’s merely holding him to his own standards.
When you put it that way, I agree. You want to be the king, you take the blame.
It’s only been barely a week, bro…
I don’t even know how you factor in other travesties. Like letting all those J6 criminals out of prison. One of them already had to be put down by a cop during a traffic stop. How do you factor that, when the safest option was to keep them in prison?
TrumpBodyCount = TrumpBodyCount + 67
