• TheLowestStone@lemmy.world
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    Biden did a lot of good but his whole legacy is not breaking with genocide.

    Now Trump has already undone most of that good, has 4 more years to cause damage, and the genocide that you “drew a line over” hasn’t stopped. Nice job.

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      I voted strategically but I shouldnt have to do it while gritting my teeth. They offered nothing because they thought they had an easy win. If we keep pointing at scapegoats and refuse to lay the blame with the ones actually in charge, we get the same exact choice in 4 years and we will lose again.

      Ya, drawing the line was dumb but so is blaming the ones that drew it instead of the driver that’s sending a train straight into a group of children.

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        they didnt offer nothing but it was ridiculous to parade around with Liz Cheney - possibly the least popular politician in the US. I can only think they were trying to get Trump elected

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        They offered nothing because they thought they had an easy win.

        Remember, nothing was…

        A woman’s bodily autonomy. A Trans person’s right to comfort in their body. The separation between church and state. A birthright citizens right to live in their country. An employee’s right to a safe job.

        And so much more… And it’s only been 7 days. Fuck anyone who said the Dems brought nothing to the table. You ignored what they were fighting to keep a hold of in order to parrot some bullshit Russian disinfo false equivalency about a genocide being committed by a different fucking leader in a different fucking country.

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          You ignored what they were fighting to keep a hold of in order to parrot some bullshit Russian disinfo false equivalency about a genocide being committed by a different fucking leader in a different fucking country.

          I would find the lesser evil argument more convincing if the people advocating it didn’t always turn out to be genocide denying conspiracy theorists who will ignore reality to defend unspeakable acts

          Seems like you’re not actually capable of pragmatically choosing the lesser evil while still condeming it. Seems like you always end up defending evil.

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          3 days ago

          Why are you ignoring all the funds and arms sent to this entire different country? Do you think all that military aid is Russian disinfo?

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            Any president put in power in the US was going to provide aid to Israel one way or another. As abhorrent as Israel’s actions are, they are a US ally, and they did suffer major terrorist attack in October, and they are surrounded by other nations that would love to chop them up. Full stop, any aid sent to Israel should have been conditional, but it’s foolish to think that they would not have continued without US support. The situation is not black and white and our best chance of changing Israel’s actions were to elect Kamala, and put Democrats in Congress that are for conditional aid to Israel.

            What was Russian disinfo was pushing the narrative that Kamala was a genocide supporter to Democrats, and not pushing the fact that if trump won, he was going to back Israel completely eradicating Palestinians from the Gaza strip.

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              Full stop, any aid sent to Israel should have been conditional, but it’s foolish to think that they would not have continued without US support.

              Then they could have continued without US support. If anyone in the biden white house or anyone in his wing of the party had wanted to withdraw it.

              • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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                3 days ago

                Exactly! So why throw away your own damn country because of a genocide being done by a different leader in a different country that was going to continue no matter what?