It’s not about you Joe. Get the fuck over yourself.
Note: I do not agree with the Orange Cheeto; merely posting the meme.
This is the most incredibly selfish thing I could possibly imagine. An old man moping about his inability to cling to power for another minute. As the next generations look on, begging for someone to act.
He paints Trump as a villain (rightfully so) but is so pathetic that he is unable to rise to any heroism. At least go out swinging.
Don’t know what I expected. But it is a slap in the fucking face to hear this.
And I’ll never stop feeling angry that he didn’t decide to step down after one term. The difference is that I’m going to live long enough to see the consequences of that decision.
He’s just pissy he didn’t get his own chance to fucking lose. Because in his heart, Biden also thinks the problem with Kamala is that she was a black woman. He sees no problem with his policies, his stance on Israel, his willingness to play nice and coy with Republicans, or his impending death. He seriously thinks that only he could “save” America, and that he could have won. All this, despite all the constituents of his party cheering when he stepped down and flooded his replacement with donations and praise.
I’ll say it again, rest in piss Brandon. People will compare you to Chamberlain or Brüning, and it will be a disservice to both those men. Your ego caused you to utterly fail your country, and we will remember you as a failure.
Why don’t you save the country instead of being a moody bitch? It’s entirely possible to do the wrong things for all the right reasons, and still be correct
I hope by the time the next election comes around, assuming we will ever have another election, that we endorse a new party and completely abandon the democratic party in favor of something like a labor party. Maybe, just maybe, we have seen the Democrats vs. Republicans for the last time.
This country had different parties before, we can have different parties again.
I’m more aligned with Sanders than the democrats. D just feels like neoliberalism protected by identity politics when we need to focus on class issues. Lots of working people can get behind the same idea of wealth inequality. Identity politics has fragmented the focus. I don’t give a shit about Target/rando corp having rainbow clothes: when lots of people cannot afford the clothes, then that’s a problem to solve.
The problem is that there are people who really fucking care about those rainbow clothes. And those people don’t think a subset of our population should exist. That’s why it’s something to give a fuck about.
You don’t have to be gay to give a shit about these things. They’re talking about ending marriage equality (or “leave it up to the states” which I’m sure won’t lead to chaos when states decide not to acknowledge people’s marriage certificates).
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I agree with you that the Democrats need to focus on economic issues, but I’m not following on the “identity politics.”
What did the Democrats propose to do about pride merch in Target?
It’s less about what they did than didn’t do. There’s been inroads made because of identity politics, but now it feels somewhat pointless. Instead of being the “big tent” party, the Dems are the party of many tents. That means working class people look at it, say, “I’m not part of some special group, so I don’t matter.” And they turn red or just “not Dems.” A lot of people didn’t have improvements in their lives over the last 4 years.
Absolutely, some groups are more negatively impacted by others, but systemic racism is invisible to many. Meanwhile, things are more expensive, salaries can’t keep up with inflation, we’re talking about trillionaires in 10 years.
I don’t identify as a democrat. They can talk all they want, but I have no faith in the party. I fit in several identity politics groups, but that doesn’t matter while people struggle with housing, food… it’s just a distraction to divide us further rather than focusing on the shared element that every day people are facing.
That means working class people look at it, say, “I’m not part of some special group, so I don’t matter.”
In fairness, there haven’t been a lot of indicators that the working class matters to Democrats. In fact, they got a few very public demonstrations that when given the opportunity, Democrats will not act in the best interests of workers.
The problem isn’t that Democrats defend trans people too much (because they fucking don’t. They ran republican anti-trans hate in their own ads last election.) The problem is that Democrats don’t also fight for workers.
Democrats should openly and viciously fight for every tent they (falsely claim to) represent. Not just the ones that are convenient at the moment.
I agree at the general prescription for the party. On a personal level, it’s starting to feel like a distraction, and maybe even a manufactured one.
On a personal level, it’s starting to feel like a distraction, and maybe even a manufactured one.
So we should just abandon every vulnerable minority on the grounds that protecting them or fighting for them in any way would just play into Republicans’ attempts to distract?
Oh yeah! Definitely what I’m saying in good faith! /s
Focus on what an actual aligned group can: our class. We’d help those groups and more if we stopped doing this.
I say I agree with someone and I get bad faith questioning back.
I’m still not following then.
Why would you list pride merch in Target as one of the problems with the Democrats if that’s not one of their problems?
Do you have anything to support this hypothesis that supporting vulnerable groups was what cost them the election instead of them being the party of the status quo? Or maybe I’m misunderstanding?
Like I said, I’m with you that they need to focus on economics that has an effect on people’s lives. I just don’t follow your other point.
It’s a joke because a bunch of people on the right got mad over Target.
This is an opinion. I’m okay with my feelings being wrong.
Then aren’t you doing the thing you’re complaining about? Choosing to discuss identity politics over economics?
I don’t want to talk about it. Other people are?
He’s angry because he lost his election. I’m angry because I fear we lost our country.
And one thing, importantly, that President Biden has been absolutely consistent about is this belief that he believes that had he stayed in the race, he would have defeated Donald Trump again. Now, all of this adds up to, I would say, a mood of sadness and sort of this sense of tragedy here at the White House,” concluded Lee. “Those around him believing and actually hoping that when history judges President Biden years from now, that it will be a little bit more forgiving than how the president is being widely judged, at least today, Jake. ”
Emphasis mine. The level of hubris is genuinely jaw-dropping.
To be fair though im in a rather dark mood myself.
It’s hard to be absolutely sure, but I think the chances of him winning were very, very slim.
I know his internal numbers were supposedly very bad, but it’s also hard to say how that stacks up with the fact that Kamala is also POC and a woman and we know that is definitely still a factor, unfortunately.
My guess - and without actually holding an election, that’s all it can be - is that his results would have been worse than Kamala’s.
Joe Biden’s internal polling reportedly showed that Donald Trump was on track to win 400 electoral votes in a head-to-head matchup according to one of the pod save america bros
Yeah I think the Democrats would have lost no matter who they ran IMO. I think Trump won the second that assassin missed and he did the fist pump in front of the American flag. That’s exactly the sort of shit people eat up.
And it’s funny that Biden’s all pissy about it because I think he actually did play it the best way he could to benefit himself personally - by dropping out he wins no matter what. If Harris had won, he’d have looked heroic for stepping aside and ‘putting country before himself’ or whatever, and now that she lost, he can just say “well I would have won if I’d stayed” which you can’t really prove definitively one way or the other.
Would you have felt more or less angry keeping your promise not to run again Joe? Sounds like a you problem.
I think the anger needs to be focused on the Democratic party leaders and apparatus for being elitist in their thinking ignoring the constituency and losing the blue collar vote. They have increasingly catered to the college educated with predictable results.
They have increasingly catered to the college educated with predictable results.
Hogwash. They have catered to the dwindling number of alleged moderate Republicans. There is no reason that you cannot appeal to both the college educated and those without a degree.
He’s sad that president Netanyahu is being replaced by president Musk.
