I mean Americans oversaw the transfer of power to fascists.
Sure Biden/Kamala should be issuing a warning, although they already have, many times. But the situation we find ourselves in is squarely on Americans.
They either didn’t believe the things they were saying or they don’t care.
Biden will expire before anything affects him and Kamala is rich enough to be unaffected. Of course they don’t care.
Because they didn’t achieve them? …isn’t that exactly like you, though?
Or both.
Remember, the Democrats aren’t allowed to call the Republicans fascists. It might hurt their feelings, and the Dem’s corporate masters don’t want any Republicans to have their feelings hurt. That’s why “weird” got tossed to the wayside despite being effective, that’s why Biden was chastised for calling Trump garbage, and that’s why even though Trump was “an enormous threat to our democracy,” the Dems refused to call a spade a spade. Meanwhile, Republicans are allowed to scrape the shit from their ass and sling it wherever they want.
What did you really expect the controlled opposition to do? Give a rousing speech about the tough times ahead? Inspire worker solidarity? The DNC is the poster child for corrupt old boomers, they do not give a fuck. They made millions of dollars off this election and will see zero consequence.
What I expect from Democrats in power is spinelessness and acquiescence, and they almost always deliver.
And yet, you all would vote for them in the blink of an eye again if the opportunity presented itself
Hey, don’t fucking lump me in with those assholes. I’ve been calling out the Blue MAGA bullshit from the second .world started pushing it.
Statement of caution? Americans are about to get what they asked for and if I was Biden, I’d steal half the shit on my way out and pardon all my family and friends. It’s clear that those are the rules now, so may as well take advantage of it before giving up the presidency. But American voters and those who stayed home can fuck right off and enjoy the next 4 years and keep their mouth shut.
The peaceful transfer of power to fascists from fascists
Lets be real. This wouldn’t have happened if the dems weren’t also genocidal trash.
In speech this week, Biden boasted about making the US so much stronger militarily that sets up Trump for “success”.
In another speech, or maybe the same one, he patted himself on the back for leaving Trump the strongest economy evah!
Civility is the highest liberal virtue.
Either it’s civility, or it’s compromise and reaching across the aisle, but of course even compromise must always be done with great civility.
They spent their admin continuing many of Trump’s worst policies. Even put his deportation and fossil fuel extraction numbers to shame.
They’re not worried about it.
They held a vote over if you wanted them to do something, and democrat voters stayed home while republicans showed up. We have literally no one to blame but ourselves. Vote if you get another chance, fight for that chance if you don’t.
Netanyahu started a war with Palestine to get liberals pissed off at Democrats who basically have their hands tied due to the Jewish relationship with Dems and Israel being tied to our national security.
Oh boy, now you’re gonna get all the “no, it’s Democrats’ fault that I didn’t vote!” people desperately trying to assuage the guilt they’re feeling for the idiotic decision that they made in the face of countless people pleading with them not to.
I voted for Kamala. The blame is 100% on her and the Democrats for losing. Let’s forget policy entirely and look at their strategic choices. They didn’t hold a primary despite 60% of their own voters wanting a different candidate. They hid signs of Biden’s cognitive decline until they were too public to ignore. When it was clear he could not win, they appointed a successor who failed to win a single state in 2020. She then went on to hire the same people who lost to Trump in 2016, and they lost again by running the same strategy of, “court disaffected Republicans,” which failed n 2016.
It is the job of a political party to get people to vote for their candidate. The party failed to do this through spectacular incompetence. They are the only people who should feel guilty.
This is a real “whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better”. Somehow everyone is compelled to vote for politicians who are complicit in a genocide, but not to vote for anyone else - by the overwhelming argument of “it’s what a lot of people voted for last time so we have to keep doing it”.
And it’s not the fault of the people who voted for the fascist that you’re focused on - or your own fault for voting for someone who’s also a fascist, but more subtle about it - no, it’s only the people who didn’t vote for any kind of fascist, who are at fault for the fascist being elected. I’m sure you think this logic is completely sane and not just the entire reason we have bipartisan fascism and support for genocide in the U.S., not to even get into the global empire.
False. The democrats ran a terrible campaign. Biden refused to step down, until it was too late to primary. They forced a candidate upon the country without a democratic process. Their campaign had terrible messaging and was tone deaf to the real situation the working class faces. They were unable to convince millions of voters that showed out for them last time to show up again. The democrats are more concerned with protecting their donors than they are protecting the working class and winning. Until you and everyone else oblivious can come to grips with this, nothing will change.
And before you say anything stupid, I voted for her.
OP isn’t wrong and neither are you. Democrats didn’t show up, republicans did that is why Harris lost.
But Harris lost because of everything you wrote as well.
Don’t forget the last 4 years of failing to deliver any meaningful improvements for the people who voted in 2020 or even stopping republicans from banning abortion. Also a year and a half of facilitating genocide while encouraging universities to beat the shit out of the very same politically-active students who would otherwise be campaigning for the democrats.
What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy? That doesn’t excuse them from not taking the gloves off and being very vocal about the roadblocks.
Gaza, while an issue is not moving the needle for the majority of voters.
What were they supposed to do without enough votes to pass policy?
Use executive orders. Instead of asking the SCOTUS to tell texas to remove the child drowning fence across the rio, and look like you don’t actually want it gone, send in a tank to tear it out. The commander in chief can just do that. They can also order military hospitals to provide women with reproductive healthcare.
Did you not remember the Trump administration, where he’d try something new every week, and even if it did get shut down, getting told “no” after you’ve already accomplished what you wanted is better than not trying at all.
Appoint a head of the DoJ that would throw Trump in prison and investigate Manchin’s family.
Appoint a head of the DEA who would actually reschedule cannabis. You don’t need congress for these things.
ml users are incapable of nuanced discourse.
This is instance-based hate speech, a direct violation of rule 6.
What do you want them to do? Barricade themselves in the Oval Office and go out in a blaze of glory?
Maybe not invite the dude over for cookies and tea.
Politicians are all on the same team against humanity.
Maybe arrest the criminal that was literally about to be sentenced?
This is the only alternative you can envision? Either Biden and Harris say nothing, as they’ve done since the election, or they go full Rambo in the White House?
If I were them I wouldn’t exactly have a strong emotional desire to protect the people who voted for a fascist felon over them.
Do your emotional desires dictate your politics? Or do you have an ethical system that does that? If so, why didn’t your ethical system preclude you from writing that comment?
Emotions dictate the politics of the OP and artist, clearly.
Sounds like “whataboutism”/“tu quoque” to me.
See if it werent the primary topic being discussed here that would be fair like if I said “whatabout Trump’s emotions!” then it would work.
In fact, you asking about my politics was more whataboutism than my statement.
Scrolling back up, not sure I read your first comment correctly, but it does still apply. A politician is charged with doing the right thing (as if they ever actually do), not following their emotional desires. It’s unclear if you meant “the people who voted for a fascist felon” in terms of the public at large or just the Trump voters, though that applies either way (I know, we don’t like being merciful to bad people). I do think encouraging retribution, at the expense of the wellbeing of a society, is actively harmful, I don’t think that’s ethical, which is what I was pointing out about your comment, not trying to discredit your argument by saying you’re being hypocritical, which is what “tu quoque”/“whataboutism” would actually be. Now, you responding to my comment saying, “well OP/the artist have their politics dictated by emotion”, that is a perfect example of whataboutism, because instead of acknowledging or even examining the criticism, you’re just saying the same thing is true about someone else. So no, what I said was not more “whataboutism” then your statement.
I really don’t like this thing on social media where somebody will make a completely incorrect argument and then it’s like there’s an expectation placed on you to go back and point out all the problems with what they said. Can we literally get like, just the basic mechanics of logic out of the way? Having to spend time establishing this shit is insane.
Sounds like terrible leadership
In a democracy giving people what they chose is good leadership.
Absolutely false. People are fucking morons that do not know what they need. People are good at identifying the problems that face them, experts are good at finding solutions. Good leadership in a democracy is finding experts and supporting them to find solutions for the problems constituents face.
Okay so you’re unironically arguing against actual democracy and I don’t feel the need to say anything other than that to you.
We don’t live in a democracy and good leadership is not telling your whole team that they can’t get fucked because half of them made a bad decision.
Biden won the 2020 primaries by a huge margin, Trump won his primary by an even bigger margin, and Biden lost to Trump in the 2024 general WITH POPULAR VOTE.
Thats democracy. People chose this.
77 Million Trump voters who showed up and 6.6 Million DNC voters who stayed home, they all chose this.
People who hate democrats calling for the democrats to overthrow the US government to save them after voting third party. Lol.
after
voting third partyafter not bothering to vote at all.
Edit: You can downvote if you like, but 88 million Americans sat on their arses instead of going out to prevent this shit show. That’s 11 million more than voted for either candidate.
It’s always the same tune with these “folks”.
They shoot themselves in the foot and go online to lament about how they’re oppressed now and it’s gotta be someone else’s fault.
It’s honestly embarrassing and makes the left look bad.
And I’m sure someone will come in here to tell me that I’m a “shitlib” or something and not a leftist, because I don’t pass their horseshit purity test.
This is why the left can never do shit. Nobody else is the “correct” kind of left in their mind, and therefore they refuse to even deal with them, let alone attempt to form any kind of coalition. It’s so fucking cringe to anybody who lives in the real world.
By these “folks”… You’re talking about genocide joe and kamalacaust, right?
If the US had Defensive Democracy, then maybe they could do something.
But instead, we have whoever wins (aka: gets the most rich doners) gets to become president, even if they want to violate the very oath they are about to take.
The fuck are they supposed to do!? We as Americans voted Trump or didn’t vote at all. Therefore, the fascists won.
They could’ve held a primary… Like a democracy kinda thing?
Trump got the same votes as last time basically.
Democrats didn’t show up. Again.
I think too many of them felt complacent in the idea that Trump couldn’t win…
Do you think it has nothing to do with perpetually online kids screaming the word “genocide” all over the internet like they know what they’re talking about?
Maybe it isn’t the fault of kids who oppose genocide… But it has to do with genocide joe and kamalacaust supporting a genocide?
Those kids are idiots who don’t understand how the world works. At best. At worst they’re know what they’re doing and lying for money.
The choice wasn’t genocide or rainbows. The choice was allowing the other country to do genocide or actively participating in the worst version of it. That was painfully, totally obvious to everyone with half a brain. Those people in question helped promoting the second choice that is worse for everyone but couple of rich dudes. They are absolutely to blame for what they did. They weren’t the only party to blame, but they absolutely were part of it.
Do you think it has nothing to do with perpetually online kids screaming the word “genocide” all over the internet like they know what they’re talking about?
Boy, you really shoehorned that in.
Are you disputing that there’s a genocide against Palestinians? Are you disputing the Biden administration’s singular role in facilitating that genocide? Do you disagree that genocide is the worst crime mankind is capable of, short of perhaps total nuclear annihilation of all life? I’m not a “single issue” voter, but boy, if I had to pick one issue, it’d be fucking genocide. I honestly don’t know how you people live with yourselves.
I am describing the situation where people thought that they are chosing between a genocide and no genocide, where in reality it was absolutely painfully obvious that they were choosing between a lot of good with a little genocide and everything being worse and genocide being the worst of the worse.
And now every thing that Trump will do worse than Kamala ever was able to do is in part those people’s fault.
Because, and it’s weird that I need to repeat this so often, when you’re making a choice you need to chose of available options and can’t wish for a secret non-existent option. That never worked and that didn’t work this time either.
I wish I didn’t know how you people live with yourselves, but I unfortunately know.Can you literally just answer the questions I asked, instead of trying to reframe everything from your perspective?
No that’s probably a lot to do with it.
Given all the “We’re staying home because Kamala’s bad for Palestine… Wait Trump won? But he’s WORSE for Palestine, how could this happen!!!”
Yeah…
“If only someone had warned us…”
If you think the people who don’t like seeing American bombs ripping children apart day in and day out were enough to swing the vote, don’t you think the democrats should have listened to us?
I bet you feel better now, when more bombs will bomb more children and you helped this happen.
I did not make genocide unpopular. I did not make ending covid protections, doing fuckall about roe or the SCOTUS, failing to cancel student debt, failing to reschedule cannabis, quadrupling the tariff on chinese solar panels, EVs, and batteries all decrease turnout.
You had the choice between bad and worse. not an appealing choice. but everyone knew those who liked the orange monkey would go vote. so not voting, in protest against bad is a vote for worse.
so yes, the democrats in usa have lost the connection to their base. however, this doesn’t give anyone able to vote, the right to blame them for an elected baboon.
“You were handed a choice by the same system committing genocide, it’s on you to unquestioningly accept that choice and not seek any alternative, thereby guaranteeing all manner of crimes against humanity will continue indefinitely. I think this because I’m incapable of understanding that both parties supporting genocide completely discredits any theory about their political independence.”
You seeked an alternative, turns out the alternative is Trump. Do you feel good about what you have found? Are you capable of admitting to yourself that seeking of alternative would be better if there was a little less unhinged fascism?
Didn’t Eisenhower or some president warn about the dangers of the burgeoning military indistrial complex in his farewell address?
And Eisenhower is remembered for it, respected for it, 60+ years later.
Biden and Harris will say nothing.
