• bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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    There’s nothing wrong with .ml communities stop the stupid infighting, splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.

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      Take a look at the modlogs from .ml admins and moderators. Their rule 1 violation is a catch-all for anything that hurts their feelings. They remove shit that clearly break no rules all the time.

      Don’t believe me? Go to any .ml community and respectfully disagree with anything positivity said on the topic of Russia or china. See what happens.

      It’s almost as if they’re not smart enough to know that the modlogs are public or something.

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        I swear I need to make a log or something at this point for when this inevitably gets brought up so I can just paste links. I frequent any community and respectfully disagree all the time. I have one moderation from when I first started and didn’t “respectfully” comment (making pooh jokes, I wasn’t trying to engage seriously in a discussion and back the mod action).

        Let’s make this easy, show me one example of what you’re talking about so my mind can be changed.

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldOP
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      Having a tankie instance as prominent as .ml is already hurting the Fediverse. It’s not a few bad Apple communities, it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials

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        The beauty of the fediverse is that people can block and see whatever they want. If you don’t like what you see, that’s a you problem not .ml’s

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        it’s literally the admins and mods cultivating an instance wide Tankie culture/factory full of China-bootlicking and genocide denials

        Dramatic 🙄

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          Fine, can we concede that while they’re allowing other topics to flourish on their instance there are also unwritten rules that lead to confused banned users?

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            Can you elaborate about unwritten rules? Most of the bans I’ve seen has been for pretty clear rules violations, there’s some stuff which might fly on reddit (like xenophobia, sexism, racism, transphobia), that will catch a ban here. Having rules against bigotry actually getting enforced is probably a confusing occurrence for some redditors. Even people behaving hostile will generally only catch a temp ban to cool down, permanent bans are more for people who are being bigoted.

            I have had plenty of issues with at least one of the admins, despite that I have yet to be censored for saying as much. The red-baiting disguised as legitimate concerns rubs me the wrong way though.

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              Check the modlogs. .ml uses rule 1 as a catch all for whatever is said that hurts their feelings.

              Almost daily there are removals and bans that don’t break rules.

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                weird, looks like you got banned for the same thing on lemmy.world, (hostility, repeatedly calling people “kids” in a derogatory way, and trivializing the ongoing genocide), but only had a post removed for similar behavior on .ml.

                CW: .world modlog

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                moderated .ml comment

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                got any better examples?

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      “Nothing wrong” lol. Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears. I’ve practically been radicalized against visiting tankie spaces and it’s because of their lies and responses to myself and others…

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        Many of us have had propagandized disinformation blasted at us for recognizing realities we can see and hear with our own eyes and ears.

        Editors note: the person above is speaking about things happening in countries they have never visited, and cannot speak the language of, as reported in press based in geopolitical enemies of those countries.

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          Are you pretending to be a mod, or was that a bad joke?

          Anyway, this isn’t an ideology disagreement and I’m not talking about what goes on in other countries/languages, it’s an anecdote. I’m telling you what I experienced.

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            It wasn’t a joke; it was calling you out for bullshit. And you’re not sharing an anecdote of what happened to you. You’re vague posting and expecting people to nod along without so much as a broad categorization of what you’re talking about, let alone details.

            In all likelihood you’re whining about something in which you were clearly in the wrong.

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      splitting discussion on Lemmy further will do nothing but hurt the fediverse.

      No one’s saying defederate.