• Birch@sh.itjust.works
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      4 days ago

      I can’t remember the last time I heard of some european police shooting someones spaniel or flashbanging a toddler tbh, not saying they’re flawless, just on a different level.

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        2 days ago

        Blatant violence committed by police is not the only reason cops are bad. They are also the enforcers against journalists, worker action, environmental and climate activism, and so on. Even when those folks are behaving entirely lawfully, cops or prosecutors or other government officials just make up bullshit charges to arrest and intimidate folks.

        Richard Medhurst is a notable recent example in the UK.

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          Well, you’re describing violence inherent to the system. When people talk about cops being bad, they usually mean that cops don’t just uphold the bad law, that’s kind of given, but commit extrajudicial violence

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        3 days ago

        I don’t understand the argument behind ACAB. How can anyone think that. I never have understood this.

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          3 days ago

          I’ll bite. Do you want an actual answer, or do you just want the opportunity to publicly clutch your pearls?

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            2 days ago

            Just give your answer anyways, you don’t need their permission. I believe that ACAB myself but I’m always eager to read why others agree with me

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            3 days ago

            I think I want an answer from someone with less attitude. I’m not here to argue, but to have calm discussions. Next, please. 👉

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          2 days ago

          I believe that all cops are bad.

          It doesn’t mean I think every cop is personally bad in their private life. It means that it doesn’t matter how good or bad a cop is as a private individual. As soon as they put on that uniform they become the enforcers of unjust laws, and the enforcers of persecution against minorities, journalists, workers taking collective action, environmental and climate activists, human rights activists…the list goes on.

          All cops are bad because the very nature of being a cop overrides any personal merit the cop may otherwise have.

          This video by Thought Slime explains quite well what is usually meant by ACAB, and explains what the alternatives are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5xnEL8mYg